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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 9219253" data-attributes="member: 12731">I think you underestimate the ease of use the "package" that is the subclass brings. It makes the game appear simpler... and for newcomers it definitely is simpler. It brings character identity ("so you played a battlemaster too? sweet?") and boils down that bundle of abilities to a single word.In other words, technically you're right but I would say it's an advanced/experienced viewpoint. What I'm after specifically is to create a new big decision point and have that happen at a high-ish level (such as perhaps level 10 or 14). With the specific aim to put spotlight on high-level play; drawing attention to the need for much better design support of those levels and stop having them be an afterthought.If there was much more discussion around a choice every player (that doesn't stop playing before this point) it would shine a light on the mechanics of high-level abilities that I believe would be good for the game and for those of us who want WotC to better support high levels.</blockquote>