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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9220960" data-attributes="member: 6877472">It's a precedent.  Good or bad.  It's not "strawgrasping" to note that it exists, and is a precedent for other things like it existing.You seem to have some pretty strong feelings about class-specific items.  Saying that "oh if one shows up, that means the DM is possibly playing favorites" is a ludicrous claim.  That's like saying "oh wow, Pipes of the Sewers.  Funny how only one person in the party can use a wind instrument!".  Come on, anyone with that level of paranoia is problematic for the game without the existence of specific attunement requirements.Now if you don't like specific attunement requirements (or a particular subset of them), hey that's great.  But that's just like, your opinion, man.If you want to get back to "do Rogues need special items", we circle around to the question if any class does- and what do you know, we have examples of items that you need to be not only a spellcaster to use, but specific classes of arcane spellcaster.  There are Wands and Staves that say "Bard, Warlock, or Wizard" can only attune to them.  Do Bards, Warlocks, or Wizards need them?  Or a Robe of the Archmagi?Well someone seems to think so, or they wouldn't exist as options.  And if you're a DM and don't think so, hey, they don't appear.  But when someone says, "hey, can my Rogue have a cool Rogue-only item?", why shouldn't they be allowed to have one, if other classes can?The Rogue wouldn't be broken if a magic item that boosted them existed.  Because appearing in a book doesn't mean it's going to appear in a game.  Certainly not every Paladin is toting a Holy Avenger!On the other hand, no, I don't think the Rogue needs a Sneak Attack bonus item in general.  If I was given the job to improve the Rogue experience, assuming I felt that the Rogue experience needed improvement (which I don't really, I mean, I think they might be ok with a little boost, but I don't think the Rogue has any problems until perhaps the higher levels), Sneak Attack isn't how I'd do it.And making Sneak Attack magic items is definitely not how I'd do it, because I have no expectation they'd ever see play.  I just don't see the harm in putting one into a game compared to any other item that already exists.</blockquote>

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