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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9236297" data-attributes="member: 7035894">And a top gymnast can't bench press, squat, deadlift, curl, clean&jerk, etc. a fraction of what a top weightlifter or powerlifter can. What makes an Iron Cross so special? That's a strength to weight and agility move, not a pure strength move - those guys are supporting a fraction of the weight that lifters move.Heavyweight powerlifters weigh much, much more than gymnasts, and don't worry about getting down to 5% body fat, so yeah, they aren't going to be great on a pommel horse.What are you even talking about? Do you think they lift weights through magic? If you don't think that weight and powerlifters don't have to work ALL their muscles to handle the kinds of weight they do, you have never been to a gym. They build for one thing: strength. Measured objectively by being able to move the most weight.This is more true, but body builders are still extremely strong. Not comparable to weight lifters, but much more so than gymnasts.Look, you can have your own idiosyncratic definitions but if you go a to a World's Strongest Man competition and start telling everyone that gymnasts are really the strongest, everyone is going to look at you funny. Including the gymnasts. They know what's up.I bet I can do more pull-ups than any 350 lb powerlifter. Because I'm in good shape, I've been a climber all my life, and, most importantly, I weigh 165. Does that make me stronger than them? Should I get an 18 strength score?Gymnasts are strong. Top gymnasts can squat, bench, and deadlift more than double their body weight. Top powerlifters can do much better than that. Show me one pure strength record held by a gymnast.</blockquote>

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