Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9244509" data-attributes="member: 93670">The black hole there is especially frustrating as a GM given how past editions were quite clear on it with values that actually make sense with a game based on 5ft squares[spoiler="the 4e rule"]JumpMake an Athletics check to jump vertically to reach a dangling rope or a high ledge or to jump horizontally to leap across a pit, a patch of difficult terrain, a low wall, or some other obstacle.High Jump: Part of a move action.✦ Distance Jumped Vertically: Make an Athletics check and divide your check result by 10 (round down). This is the number of feet you can leap up. The result determines the height that your feet clear with a jump. To determine if you can reach some-thing while leaping, add your character’s height plus one-third rounded down (a 6-foot-tall character would add 8 feet to the final distance, and a 4-foot-tall character would add 5 feet).✦ Running Start: If you move at least 2 squares before making the jump, divide your check result by 5, not 10.✦ Uses Movement: Count the number of squares you jump as part of your move. If you run out of move-ment, you fall. You can end your first move in midair if you double move (page 284).Example: Marc, a 6-foot-tall human, attempts a high jump to catch a rope dangling 12 feet over-head. His check result is 26. With a running start, he leaps the distance (26 ÷ 5 = 5 feet, plus his height and one-third for a final reach of 13 feet). If Marc leaps from a standing position, he can’t quite reach the end of the rope (26 ÷ 10 = 2 feet for a final reach of 10 feet).Long Jump: Part of a move action.✦ Distance Jumped Horizontally: Make an Athlet-ics check and divide your check result by 10 (don’t round the result). This is the number of squares you can leap across. You land in the square determined by your result. If you end up over a pit or a chasm, you fall and lose the rest of your move action.✦ Distance Cleared Vertically: The vertical distance you clear is equal to one-quarter of the distance you jumped horizontally. If you could not clear the vertical distance of an obstacle along the way, you hit the obstacle, fall prone, and lose the rest of your move action.✦ Running Start: If you move at least 2 squares before making the jump, divide your check result by 5, not 10.✦ Uses Movement: Count the number of squares you jump as part of your move. If you run out of move-ment, you fall. You can end your first move in midair if you double move (page 284).Example: Marc attempts a long jump to clear a 5-foot-high wall of thorns and the 10-foot-wide pit beyond it. His check result is 24. With a running start, he easily jumps the distance (24 ÷ 5 = 4.8 squares or 24 feet) and clears the wall (24 ÷ 4 = 6 feet). If Marc jumps from a standing position, he can’t quite make it across the pit (24 ÷ 10 = 2.4 squares or 12 feet) and doesn’t clear the wall (12 ÷ 4 = 3 feet). He hits the wall of thorns and falls prone before reaching the pit.[/spoiler][spoiler="the absurdly simple 3.5 rule"]Long Jump Distance Jump DC1 5 feet 5 10 feet 10 15 feet 15 20 feet 20 25 feet 25 30 feet 30 1 Requires a 20-foot running start. Without a running start, double the DC.   Creature Size Vertical Reach Colossal 128 ft. Gargantuan 64 ft. Huge 32 ft. Large 16 ft. Medium 8 ft. Small 4 ft. Tiny 2 ft. Diminutive 1 ft. Fine 1/2 ft. [ispoiler]To be fair I did not copy the text explaining concepts like vertical & horizontal,  There was also a couple edge cases mentioned like a reflex save to grab the edge  after a jump doesn't clear & such[/ispoiler][/spoiler]</blockquote>

Verification