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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9253324" data-attributes="member: 2525">This is again more circular logic. The argument was that 5e dragons as written are not powerful enough, with the evidence being in 5e a town of 1000 people would kill a dragon with 300 people shooting longbows. The same rules however don't provide for that happening on their face. So to prove your point, you alter the stats of the population listed in the rules to be able to do the thing you claimed, as opposed to use the very rules as written that you made a claim about to examine if your claim is true.Look my man, you can alter a dragon too. But we're not talking about altering the rules. We're talking about what they say right now. And right now commoners don't have proficiency with anything other than a club and are described as the overwhelming majority of professions found in an ordinary town. That's it. You can't alter them to make your point any more than I can alter the red dragon to make my point.You want to sup-up the townsfolk in your game? Cool. Just don't complain when I sup-up the dragon in response. But the 5e dragon beats the 5e town as written in the rules.</blockquote>