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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GameOgre" data-source="post: 6461737" data-attributes="member: 57914">I think it's just impossible to say Rogues were like THIS or Rogues were like THAT!Everyone played them differently and many DM's rules Sneaking and Hide differently. One DM I played with ruled that you couldn't ever get off Backstab after the monster knew you were there(so after the first round) another ruled that anytime you struck it from behind you got off a backstab.It varied so wildly from table to table that no two players playing rogues would have had the same experience.Heck my Thief made it to 16th level back in 1E and I think at the end he would still have trouble doing more than 1D4-1(9 strength)+3 damage(magic dagger) per round unless he got off a Backstab (I think at the end my DM let me backstab from behind once per monster but after that ruled he knew I was there).Nobody's memories are wrong. It's just that the rules were not set in stone and the DM ruled as he saw fit.I'm sure many people played with DM's more lenient in the backstab department than mine was.</blockquote>