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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 2114491" data-attributes="member: 13966">.....I can't believe this thread is still going.&nbsp; Patryn, you cannot flank with a ranged weapon.&nbsp; I can't believe you came up with some convoluted way of misinterpreting the rules when I posted the SRD quotes verbatim.&nbsp; Now I'll just waste my time posting them again.Emphases above are mine.&nbsp; See how the very first line states right off that it only applies with melee attacks?&nbsp; The middle paragraph about drawing the imaginary line doesn't matter for ranged flanking, because you cannot flank with a ranged weapon, because you only get the flanking bonus in melee.&nbsp; That paragraph does not say anything that infers you should ignore the first sentence, it is only clarification on the first point, which already specifies that you only get flanking with melee attacks.&nbsp; The first sentence takes precedence, because no later sentences say that they are exceptions, so they must follow the precedence set by the first sentence in the Flanking description.&nbsp; Flanking is only a Combat Modifier, as listed in the SRD, not a status nor a condition.Now, before you object by saying that you don't have to be the one flanking in melee, first let me refer you to another part of the SRD, the Conditions summary.&nbsp; You'll see that neither the SRD, nor the DMG, nor the PH ever mentioned &quot;flanked&quot; as a condition.&nbsp; It's not a condition.&nbsp; You can flank an enemy in melee, but they are not considered to be &quot;flanked&quot;, because &quot;flanked&quot; is not a condition.&nbsp; Flat-footed is a condition.&nbsp; Flanked is not.&nbsp; When you are being flanked, it just means that an enemy is flanking you, not that you are under the condition of being &quot;flanked&quot;.&nbsp; Again, absolutely nothing in the Core Rules ever infers that you can flank with a ranged weapon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 2114491, member: 13966"] .....I can't believe this thread is still going. Patryn, you cannot flank with a ranged weapon. I can't believe you came up with some convoluted way of misinterpreting the rules when I posted the SRD quotes verbatim. Now I'll just waste my time posting them again. Emphases above are mine. See how the very first line states right off that it only applies with melee attacks? The middle paragraph about drawing the imaginary line doesn't matter for ranged flanking, because you cannot flank with a ranged weapon, [I]because you only get the flanking bonus in melee[/I]. That paragraph does not say anything that infers you should ignore the first sentence, it is only clarification on the first point, which already specifies that you only get flanking with melee attacks. The first sentence takes precedence, because no later sentences say that they are exceptions, so they must follow the precedence set by the first sentence in the Flanking description. Flanking is only a Combat Modifier, as listed in the SRD, not a status nor a condition. Now, before you object by saying that you don't have to be the one flanking in melee, first let me refer you to another part of the SRD, the Conditions summary. You'll see that neither the SRD, nor the DMG, nor the PH ever mentioned "flanked" as a condition. It's not a condition. You can flank an enemy in melee, but they are not considered to be "flanked", because "flanked" is not a condition. Flat-footed is a condition. Flanked is not. When you are being flanked, it just means that an enemy is flanking you, not that you are under the condition of being "flanked". Again, absolutely nothing in the Core Rules ever infers that you can flank with a ranged weapon. [/QUOTE]

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