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<blockquote data-quote="atom crash" data-source="post: 2118911" data-attributes="member: 22162">If this is true, then the Hive Mind ability of formians make them completely immune to flanking.&nbsp;If flanking only applies during an attack, then all formians can never be considered flanked. By the initiative rules of combat all combatants act one at a time, and at no time can more than one person be attacking simultaneously. If formians, by your logic, can only be considered flanked when they are attacked, then they can only be flanked one at a time, so therefore according to Hive Mind they cannot be flanked. If this is the intent of the designers of that ability, then why does it not read thus: &quot;...If one in a group is not flatfooted, none of them are. No formian in a group can be flanked.&quot;Instead, the wording of that ability implies that it is possible for all formians in a group to be considered flanked, thus for them to be individually considered flanked. Therefore, your interpretation must be incorrect.Zaebos, you seem to be confused. In post #168 you were arguing that you must threaten in order to flank. Then you claimed that attacking with a whip was an exception to the flanking rules. Now you're arguing otherwise.Receiving a flanking bonus while attacking with a whip or an unarmed strike (of course, assuming that your ally who is in the correct position and threatens your opponent) is not an&nbsp; exception to any rule concerning flanking. It falls absolutely under the definiton of flanking.Edited for spelling. Now I'm going home for a game. It's time to fireball things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="atom crash, post: 2118911, member: 22162"] If this is true, then the Hive Mind ability of formians make them completely immune to flanking. If flanking only applies during an attack, then all formians can never be considered flanked. By the initiative rules of combat all combatants act one at a time, and at no time can more than one person be attacking simultaneously. If formians, by your logic, can only be considered flanked when they are attacked, then they can only be flanked one at a time, so therefore according to Hive Mind they cannot be flanked. If this is the intent of the designers of that ability, then why does it not read thus: "...If one in a group is not flatfooted, none of them are. No formian in a group can be flanked." Instead, the wording of that ability implies that it is possible for all formians in a group to be considered flanked, thus for them to be individually considered flanked. Therefore, your interpretation must be incorrect. Zaebos, you seem to be confused. In post #168 you were arguing that you must threaten in order to flank. Then you claimed that attacking with a whip was an exception to the flanking rules. Now you're arguing otherwise. Receiving a flanking bonus while attacking with a whip or an unarmed strike (of course, assuming that your ally who is in the correct position and threatens your opponent) is not an exception to any rule concerning flanking. It falls absolutely under the definiton of flanking. Edited for spelling. Now I'm going home for a game. It's time to fireball things. [/QUOTE]

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