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<blockquote data-quote="Zaebos" data-source="post: 2118914" data-attributes="member: 1499">Good Grief...I have not stated that&nbsp;&quot;You have to threaten in order to be considered flanking. When making a melee attack, you get a +2 flanking bonus if your opponent is threatened by a character or creature friendly to you on the opponent’s opposite border or opposite corner.&quot;All I have said that because you can melee attack, you threaten that square.&nbsp; That is part of the definition of threatening. There are execptions to threatening, pointed out elsewhere in the rulebook.&nbsp; What you are saying is that because the flanking rule does not call out these exceptions (and likewise the threaten rule in regards to the whip) that the rules contradict themsleves.&nbsp; This is incorrect.&nbsp; They do not contradict themsleves, but provide clairity over the intended use of the particular rule.You claim that I have altered the rules.&nbsp; I say that if you look at it in a logical flow, then you will realize that no additions have been made.I have not violated forum rules either.Can you get a flank bonus?Step1 - Determine if your ally threatens your target&nbsp; 1a - If yes, move to step 2&nbsp; 1b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus2 - Determine if your ally is on the targets opposite border or opposite corner&nbsp; 2a - If yes, move to step 3&nbsp; 2b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus3 - Are you making a melee attack?&nbsp; 3a - If yes, move to step 4&nbsp; 3b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus4 - attack with a flank bonusPretty simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zaebos, post: 2118914, member: 1499"] Good Grief... I have not stated that "You have to threaten in order to be considered flanking. When making a melee attack, you get a +2 flanking bonus if your opponent is threatened by a character or creature friendly to you on the opponent’s opposite border or opposite corner. " All I have said that because you can melee attack, you threaten that square. That is part of the definition of threatening. There are execptions to threatening, pointed out elsewhere in the rulebook. What you are saying is that because the flanking rule does not call out these exceptions (and likewise the threaten rule in regards to the whip) that the rules contradict themsleves. This is incorrect. They do not contradict themsleves, but provide clairity over the intended use of the particular rule. You claim that I have altered the rules. I say that if you look at it in a logical flow, then you will realize that no additions have been made. I have not violated forum rules either. Can you get a flank bonus? Step 1 - Determine if your ally threatens your target 1a - If yes, move to step 2 1b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus 2 - Determine if your ally is on the targets opposite border or opposite corner 2a - If yes, move to step 3 2b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus 3 - Are you making a melee attack? 3a - If yes, move to step 4 3b - If no, you do not gain a flank bonus 4 - attack with a flank bonus Pretty simple. [/QUOTE]

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