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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 6102704" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>I completely understand where you're coming from. I hit a similar wall around 2008, with the advent of 4e. I was tired. I didn't want to deal with the crap, the opinions, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of clothes, the endless cycle, the thought that maybe -this- thing would be better. I couldn't take the numbers of 3e/d20/PF, had no interest in 4e, and remembered enough of 1e & 2e to not be that interested in the OSR.</p><p></p><p>I didn't hate any of it. I think 4e is a fine game, PF is pretty cool, and the older editions of D&D are just dandy. They're different ways to play, and expecting one to be right for everyone is expecting everyone to love the same food. Needless to say, that doesn't happen even between people that like each other. (my wife & I are going out to dinner tonight. I wanted an Irish restaurant & some decent lamb; she wanted Thai/Asian; or in other words, we both wanted what we grew up with. Obviously, we're getting Asian food. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>I still visited EN World, but that was about it. It was nice to be able to be more objective. I'm thinking of DMing again, but it took time and distance to achieve some clarity about what I really wanted from the system. I ran basically the same game under several different editions, so I don't buy the argument that you "can't" play this game or that game under system X, but I finally had space to think about what aspects of each edition were the most enjoyable, and what I really wanted to achieve.</p><p></p><p>So, I dunno what the point of this is. Good luck, I suppose. have fun. That's what it's about. Nothing else. Fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 6102704, member: 70"] I completely understand where you're coming from. I hit a similar wall around 2008, with the advent of 4e. I was tired. I didn't want to deal with the crap, the opinions, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of clothes, the endless cycle, the thought that maybe -this- thing would be better. I couldn't take the numbers of 3e/d20/PF, had no interest in 4e, and remembered enough of 1e & 2e to not be that interested in the OSR. I didn't hate any of it. I think 4e is a fine game, PF is pretty cool, and the older editions of D&D are just dandy. They're different ways to play, and expecting one to be right for everyone is expecting everyone to love the same food. Needless to say, that doesn't happen even between people that like each other. (my wife & I are going out to dinner tonight. I wanted an Irish restaurant & some decent lamb; she wanted Thai/Asian; or in other words, we both wanted what we grew up with. Obviously, we're getting Asian food. ;) ) I still visited EN World, but that was about it. It was nice to be able to be more objective. I'm thinking of DMing again, but it took time and distance to achieve some clarity about what I really wanted from the system. I ran basically the same game under several different editions, so I don't buy the argument that you "can't" play this game or that game under system X, but I finally had space to think about what aspects of each edition were the most enjoyable, and what I really wanted to achieve. So, I dunno what the point of this is. Good luck, I suppose. have fun. That's what it's about. Nothing else. Fun. [/QUOTE]
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