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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8420975" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think that runs the risk of being fairly dismissive.In any case, aside a brief period in the 90's, supposedly, and perhaps to a degree during the heyday of PF1, D&amp;D has just been the face of RPGs to the outside world. Its understandable, it is an EXTREMELY niche area! I mean, of all the IT folks, even the young ones I work with, 10% has any interest or knowledge of RPGs at all (And I literally live down the street from WotC). So, once you go past the BRAND of D&amp;D, you're far out in the wilderness of things that few actual people know about.So, that being said, in terms of people who actually DO have an interest in RPGs beyond &quot;I sometimes play a character in that friend of mine's D&amp;D game&quot; you will run full face smack dab into PbtA games crawling out of the woodwork! I think a solid half, maybe even 80% of what people are playing except D&amp;D is some sort of PbtA or a game based on FitD or something very similar. Yeah, it may be a subsection of an obscure hobby, but in terms of the people who have anything to do with making or thinking about RPGs at all, its pretty important, and I bet it gets a lot more play than you think! Mainly because, of the small portion of RPGers who play a LOT, MANY are playing these games.And that's only a subsection of stuff that is heavily influenced by 'story game' design concepts. I mean, WOTC PUT IT IN D&amp;D, that tells you something! Maybe they now think that was a 'new coke' move, but it sure does show that those folks over there, and this was 14 years ago, were already deeply influenced by this type of design. I believe there are other significant schools game design, for sure, but game of the ilk of PbtA and certain other systems in the loosely 'FATE-like' or 'BW-like' kind of school are damned common. ALL the groups that I have played with, and some are fairly casual, have at least tried one or two of them out. Its not just some tiny elite of GMs or something doing it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8420975, member: 82106"] I think that runs the risk of being fairly dismissive. In any case, aside a brief period in the 90's, supposedly, and perhaps to a degree during the heyday of PF1, D&D has just been the face of RPGs to the outside world. Its understandable, it is an EXTREMELY niche area! I mean, of all the IT folks, even the young ones I work with, 10% has any interest or knowledge of RPGs at all (And I literally live down the street from WotC). So, once you go past the BRAND of D&D, you're far out in the wilderness of things that few actual people know about. So, that being said, in terms of people who actually DO have an interest in RPGs beyond "I sometimes play a character in that friend of mine's D&D game" you will run full face smack dab into PbtA games crawling out of the woodwork! I think a solid half, maybe even 80% of what people are playing except D&D is some sort of PbtA or a game based on FitD or something very similar. Yeah, it may be a subsection of an obscure hobby, but in terms of the people who have anything to do with making or thinking about RPGs at all, its pretty important, and I bet it gets a lot more play than you think! Mainly because, of the small portion of RPGers who play a LOT, MANY are playing these games. And that's only a subsection of stuff that is heavily influenced by 'story game' design concepts. I mean, WOTC PUT IT IN D&D, that tells you something! Maybe they now think that was a 'new coke' move, but it sure does show that those folks over there, and this was 14 years ago, were already deeply influenced by this type of design. I believe there are other significant schools game design, for sure, but game of the ilk of PbtA and certain other systems in the loosely 'FATE-like' or 'BW-like' kind of school are damned common. ALL the groups that I have played with, and some are fairly casual, have at least tried one or two of them out. Its not just some tiny elite of GMs or something doing it. [/QUOTE]

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