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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 8421965" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>Aye! I don't blame anyone for reading the 4e DMG and not knowing how to run 4e. That was certainly my initial experience!! 4e DMG has some good advice for generic-D&D play copy/pasted from 3e D&D "D&D for Dummies". But 4e is not really "D&D" in design or intent (5e is, moreso than 3e IMO), so it's not good advice for 4e as such. And the actual 4e-oriented advice in the 4e DMG is really weak, as if Wyatt & co did not understand their own game. It needed 1-2 more years to get right.</p><p></p><p>4e DMG2's Robin Laws advice is a bit more on point, but personally I don't find it all that great for 4e specifically. It's written for Robin Laws Gaming (TM), which is only somewhat related to 4e. It's easy to read the 4e DMG2 and <em>still</em> not have much idea how 4e works. </p><p></p><p>I suspect you could take the advice from Dungeon World, use that as your 4e GM advice, and it'd work better than anything WoTC ever put out. And I've not even read DW...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 8421965, member: 463"] Aye! I don't blame anyone for reading the 4e DMG and not knowing how to run 4e. That was certainly my initial experience!! 4e DMG has some good advice for generic-D&D play copy/pasted from 3e D&D "D&D for Dummies". But 4e is not really "D&D" in design or intent (5e is, moreso than 3e IMO), so it's not good advice for 4e as such. And the actual 4e-oriented advice in the 4e DMG is really weak, as if Wyatt & co did not understand their own game. It needed 1-2 more years to get right. 4e DMG2's Robin Laws advice is a bit more on point, but personally I don't find it all that great for 4e specifically. It's written for Robin Laws Gaming (TM), which is only somewhat related to 4e. It's easy to read the 4e DMG2 and [I]still[/I] not have much idea how 4e works. I suspect you could take the advice from Dungeon World, use that as your 4e GM advice, and it'd work better than anything WoTC ever put out. And I've not even read DW... [/QUOTE]
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