Rope Trick [Best Uses & Best Defenses Against]

Majere said:
Rope trick can be spotted by detect magic.
Majere

But only by spotting the "window". Once the rope has been pulled up, everything and everyone in the extradimensional space are hidden from any spell that does not cross a dimensional boundary.

Of course if an enemy finds the rope trick (whether through detect magic, see invisible, true seeing, scrying, etc.), they can set up a pretty nasty ambush. The occupants of the extradimensional space can only see in a very limted area directly below them.
 

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Best use of a rope trick .. I wish I had thought of this one. The party was fighting a fiendish legendary T-Rex and the party geomancer gets bitten and swallowed whole. He makes the check and cast rope trick in the belly of the beast. When the next person gets swallowed he pulls that guy into the space. They just waited it out until the rest of the party killed the T-Rex.

Speaks
 

If your tired of your party always hiding in a rope trick...

The bad guy has been scrying on the party, watching their tactics. When they use rope trick and hide inside, he seals off the exit with a cube of force, wall of stone, iron or ice, enlarge a previously reduced stone cube, etc. There are many ways.

Now the wizard uses the Transdimensional Spell metamagic feat on his fireballs. Now the party is stuck inside dying, with no way to get out. This cured my party of camping in a rope trick for quite a while. :)
 

thorian said:
If your tired of your party always hiding in a rope trick...

The bad guy has been scrying on the party, watching their tactics. When they use rope trick and hide inside, he seals off the exit with a cube of force, wall of stone, iron or ice, enlarge a previously reduced stone cube, etc. There are many ways.

Now the wizard uses the Transdimensional Spell metamagic feat on his fireballs. Now the party is stuck inside dying, with no way to get out. This cured my party of camping in a rope trick for quite a while. :)

Thats just mean, I like it, I think I'll use it. Oh wait, I'm the only one who ever uses Rope Trick. Damn.......
 

I like to use the thing as a platform for my Magic Jar spells. I just have the familiar hold the gem outside the window to create line of effect twixt me and a victim.

-thorian-

srd said:
...Anything inside the extradimensional space drops out when the spell ends. ...
And because the spell is 1 hour/level (D), they can leave the ropetrick any time they want... they'll just be standing inside your cube of force (which will block spell effects, transdimensional or not) or on top of the wall of force/iron/stone/ice. You can't force PCs to stay inside the thing.
 

Just one point:

There is nothing to stop a bad guy from entering the rope trick space.

So - if your bad guys can see invisible (or get a spot check result of 40 or so) and can get to the opening, they can still ambush the party, and it's only a little bit more difficult than ambushing them in a room with a single door.
 

Felix said:
And because the spell is 1 hour/level (D), they can leave the ropetrick any time they want... they'll just be standing inside your cube of force (which will block spell effects, transdimensional or not) or on top of the wall of force/iron/stone/ice. You can't force PCs to stay inside the thing.
I meant to place the cube of force below it, abutting the window of the rope trick. You are right about the (D). You could at least get the jump on them, and a round or two since dismissing a spell with a (D) in the duration is a standard action, and they may spend some time trying to figure out what is going on. (I guess my players didn't figure out the spell was dismissable.)
 

Speaks said:
Best use of a rope trick .. I wish I had thought of this one. The party was fighting a fiendish legendary T-Rex and the party geomancer gets bitten and swallowed whole. He makes the check and cast rope trick in the belly of the beast. When the next person gets swallowed he pulls that guy into the space. They just waited it out until the rest of the party killed the T-Rex.
Nice idea... he must have rolled a reall good concentration check though ;)
 

It is a good spell for Tarzaning across those nasty pits.

I also used it to ambush a column of bady guys. They were approaching a bridge and we set up on the far side. We went into a Rope Trick and I told my familiar to fly under the viewing portal when the enemy reached a certain point. The bird did so and I jumped down and lobbed a Fireball into their lead elements. Ultimately, we fled the encounter with our tails between our legs, but it was a mighty good start.

Tormenet
 

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