Rope Trick

moritheil said:
"Lukelighting plays a Pratchett reference for +15 defense against your metaphysical argument!" :p

Moritheil counters by metareferencing Dresden Codak!

Not to be a total anthropology nerd, but Pratchett lifted that from somewhere else. It's an old Indian story.

An Englishman who, having been told that the world rested on a platform which rested on the back of an elephant which in turn rested upon the back of a turtle, asked "what did the turtle rest on?"
"Another turtle"
"And that turtle?"
"Ah, Sahib, after that it turtles all the way down."

(at least, that's the story I heard from a anthropology book about Clifford Geertz... which I imagine predates Pratchett).
 

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Wik said:
Not to be a total anthropology nerd, but Pratchett lifted that from somewhere else. It's an old Indian story.

An Englishman who, having been told that the world rested on a platform which rested on the back of an elephant which in turn rested upon the back of a turtle, asked "what did the turtle rest on?"
"Another turtle"
"And that turtle?"
"Ah, Sahib, after that it turtles all the way down."

(at least, that's the story I heard from a anthropology book about Clifford Geertz... which I imagine predates Pratchett).
This story is also referenced in Discworld literature. Science of Discworld, I believe.
 

moritheil said:
What planet? Unless you're playing spelljammer, using the concept of planets is optional in DnD. :p I've mentioned this before, but the physical laws of reality are vastly different: there are only four elements, distance traveled depends on whether you do it across diagonals or along a grid, it's possible for a 1st-level spell to slow you from falling any height at any speed and not be harmed . . . (Yes, it's magic, but bending reality that much ought to be more like a limited wish in terms of how powerful it is, viewed through the lens of physical laws rather than player survival.)

Oh, let's not forget thermodynamics: fireballs can make light and heat and sound, but virtually no pressure change . . .

In the spelljammer game that I ran, I ruled that any object large enough to have its own gravity drug 'immobile' effects along with it. Hence, the rope trick would go with the boat.

Later
silver
 

Michael Silverbane said:
In the spelljammer game that I ran, I ruled that any object large enough to have its own gravity drug 'immobile' effects along with it.
In spelljammer, how big must something be to have it's own gravity?
 

I'd (1) make it move with the rope if the rope was left out or (2) make the user declare a frame of reference if pulling up the rope. This leaves a lot of room for creative abuse, but it's not like this is the only such spell.
 
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mvincent said:
In spelljammer, how big must something be to have it's own gravity?

I don't recall off-hand, but I believe that it was something like a 15 foot cube... So, most ships, some big critters, just about any building, etc...

Later
silver
 

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