RotK and Passion

[Trainz]

Well, I did, darn you!

Ah ha !

 

[Henry]

I also noted that some of the discussion is starting to go into the realm of theology and specifically Gibson's theology. Not trying to call names or squelch anyone's position, but this thread needs to be about the film itself and how it's doing box-office wise, not the theology of its makers or their statements or the statements of those speaking against him.

We're being civil, but I'm not letting the door get opened into uncivil territory. There are places for that discussion, but this isn't it.

Thanks, all.

 

[Mistwell]

Anyway, for the guy who said that The Passion would be the highest grossing film of all time, want to put $20 on that? I don't think it'll outgross Titanic (Damn those 14-year-old girls. Damn them TO HELL!!!), but I do think it'll get up there.

BTW: Yeah, Kesh is right. Mel did say that. However, I don't see what the big deal is. Last I checked, EVERY religion said they were the one true path. If you don't believe that, then why do you even believe in that religion in the first place, if you believe that all religions are equal or whatever?

1) For the record, Judaism does not believe it is the one true religion. In fact, technically speaking, it is more difficult to get to "heaven" under judaism, if you are jewish, than it is for a non-jew who behaves in a "good" manner during life. This is why you rarely see attempts to convert people to judaism, and also why "chosen people" is not necessarily a good thing...but merely means you have greater responsibility in life.

2) This movie is going through the roof on HSX.com as far as movie stocks go. I bouth 1000 shares at a low rate, and it's made my quarter. I'm kicking myself for not buying the full 50,000 shares when I had the chance. Ah well, it's fun to be greedy with play-money.

 

[Ranger REG]

And, as I mentioned above, Mel directly told Diane Sawyer during their ABC televised interview a few weeks ago that non-Catholics can go to heaven. I heard him say this with my own ears, and saw the words come from his lips with my own eyes. So it may all come down to msn not reporting all the facts, or not putting Mel's words in their proper context.

http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ315.HTM

Sounds like the NBC affiliates are miffed that they couldn't score an interview with him. Don't you hate it when they resort to sensationalist journalism? The piece is based on a secondhand source. I would not be surprised if he declines any interview from NBC-affiliated news agencies in the future.

While we have varying opinions, either based on alleged past statements he made or current statements regarding the film, one thing for sure, the film makes people talk about it.

 

[Kai Lord]

Not trying to call names or squelch anyone's position, but this thread needs to be about the film itself and how it's doing box-office wise,

My favorite quote about the film is now from the February 20th edition of Entertainment Weekly:

Buoyed by advance ticket sales driven by churches and other Christian groups, The Passion could pull in $30 million in its first five days.

 

[John Crichton]

I'd like to add that Gibson has gotten a ton of free publicity and advertising because of the subject matter alone. This is easily the most free advertising ever for a motion picture from my limited vantage point. What better topic to get people buzzing?

I'm not saying this was Gibson's intention at all, just a byproduct. Thoughts?

 

[Kai Lord]

I'd like to add that Gibson has gotten a ton of free publicity and advertising because of the subject matter alone. This is easily the most free advertising ever for a motion picture from my limited vantage point. What better topic to get people buzzing?

I'm not saying this was Gibson's intention at all, just a byproduct. Thoughts?

Gibson's intention was to get the word out on the film strictly "grass roots" style, that is through his now widely publicized private screenings to Christian pastors and evangelists. Many who saw the film before the release had their own radio shows and congregations through which to spread the word.

That, plus the subject matter, plus the controversy, plus the fact that literally millions of Christians have been hoping and waiting (and praying) for a cinematic rendition of the Gospels with top tier production values.

I wonder if the success of The Passion will lead Gibson or others to create similar films based on other books of the Bible. I'd love to have an updated collection of epic films based on King David, Moses, Samson, Gideon, etc.

 

[Dark Jezter]

I wonder if the success of The Passion will lead Gibson or others to create similar films based on other books of the Bible. I'd love to have an updated collection of epic films based on King David, Moses, Samson, Gideon, etc.

Although it isn't really a story in the Bible, I would love to see a remake of Ben Hur using high production values and modern special-effects technology.

A remake of The Ten Commandments is another one I would like to see.

 

[John Crichton]

Gibson's intention was to get the word out on the film strictly "grass roots" style, that is through his now widely publicized private screenings to Christian pastors and evangelists. Many who saw the film before the release had their own radio shows and congregations through which to spread the word.

Yeah, I knew about that part. I'm actually more referring to the ton of major magazine articles, TV spots and the like. Those of course being the byproduct of the subject matter. It has been interesting to watch this whole thing unfold. Now, I just have to see the film...

That, plus the subject matter, plus the controversy, plus the fact that literally millions of Christians have been hoping and waiting (and praying) for a cinematic rendition of the Gospels with top tier production values.

I wonder if the success of The Passion will lead Gibson or others to create similar films based on other books of the Bible. I'd love to have an updated collection of epic films based on King David, Moses, Samson, Gideon, etc.

That would be pretty cool. They would have to be handled properly, of course. But yes, the re-telling is important and should be done.

 

[Endur]

Sure. If I win, you spend another $20 on The Passion. If you win, I'll spend another $20 on Return of the King.

Anyway, for the guy who said that The Passion would be the highest grossing film of all time, want to put $20 on that? I don't think it'll outgross Titanic (Damn those 14-year-old girls. Damn them TO HELL!!!), but I do think it'll get up there.