Round IV is OVER

burnrate · Apr 25, 2005

SHIELD PROFICIENCY [GENERAL]

I've never seen it taken.

Rystil Arden · Apr 25, 2005

pogre said:
IMPROVED COUNTERSPELL [GENERAL]
I failed my Will save vs. Ooze influence

Before you decide to just duplicate Crothian, examine:

Crothian said:
That was me being an ass. Since it was so widely defended in the last thread, I just had to pick it

Evilhalfling · Apr 25, 2005

leadership, caus I fully stat out important NPCs and many of them have better things to do with feats then take leadership, besides modling an organization with this feat is useless.

come on 3 more votes and its gone!

CM · Apr 25, 2005

CRAFT ROD

The bastard child of craft wondrous item and either craft rod or craft staff (we're not sure who the father is).

malchus · Apr 25, 2005

Nifft said:
I'm going to go with Extra Turning this round.

If your Charisma is good enough to actually turn stuff, you have Turn attempts coming out your ears. Assuming Core rules (and thus no Divine Might monkey business).

-- N

You'd think so wouldn't you. I know I did.

Somewhere in one of the core rulebooks, mention is made of other possible uses for turning undead / channeling positive energy[1]. One of them is opening doors specially keyed for this.

I'm not sure what it is, but every time this has come up in any of our games, the attempt has failed miserably or required a ludicrous number of attempts. I don't think it was because the DCs were too high, it's just that the dice seem fated to roll low on as many attempts as possible. Which has imprinted on all of us the image of clerics shouting and straining for all they're worth while the doors remain unmoved.

When your turn attempt fails with an undead monster, it at least reacts to you. With a door, all you're left with is a slight ringing in your ears and someone behind you trying to suppress a snicker. And if the door was keeping some undead beastie contained, you've just blown all your turn attempts on getting to it, which is a very expensive form of irony...

I know there's been a couple of occasions I've been glad to have the feat.

[1] Or negative energy, I suppose

Crothian · Apr 25, 2005

Rystil Arden said:
Before you decide to just duplicate Crothian, examine:

that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to go!!!

Rystil Arden · Apr 25, 2005

Evilhalfling said:
leadership, caus I fully stat out important NPCs and many of them have better things to do with feats then take leadership, besides modling an organization with this feat is useless.

come on 3 more votes and its gone!

I don't ever give this to NPCs, but its a nifty way to model the cohort relationship for PCs within the context of the rules...