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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8314851" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>It's an opinion.</p><p></p><p>Blue Rose has <em>three</em> systems out there and the 5E version has been available on DriveThruRPG for months. It would be ludicrous to expect Blue Rose 5E to have a gigantic Kickstarter campaign to print a version of the game that the faithful are either are already playing with another system or snagged off DriveThruRPG months ago to check out the changes.</p><p></p><p>I guess this is your first acquaintance with Oz fandom, which is huge, insular, sort of quiet and largely made up of folks GenX and older, many of them with disposable income, especially when you factor in the large number of LGBT fans.</p><p></p><p>Ever since Wizard of Oz went public domain, there have been years of edgy "Oz <em>but dark</em>" takes that fans have rolled their eyes at (search for Oz on Comixology and you'll find a ton of them). This is the first traditional take on Oz in the RPG space I'm aware of since Dragon magazine announced a big Oz article that never materialized in the 1980s.</p><p></p><p>There's a <em>lot </em>of pent-up demand for Oz 5E and no real pent-up demand for Blue Rose 5E, which still successfully funded its campaign.</p><p></p><p>Are you just throwing darts at a board to decide where this theory goes? YouTube has nothing to do with anything else you're talking about.</p><p></p><p>I get that you don't care about Oz and find its success surprising, but that's a you problem, not a Double Critical or Green Ronin problem, and certainly not a 5E problem.</p><p></p><p>You want successful 5E Kickstarters? Here's a bunch, which took me less than 30 seconds to find:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/saltybot/monsterhunting5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p1" target="_blank">Heliana's Guide To Monster Hunting</a>: A DnD 5e Supplement: $1.2 million</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/asian-monsters-90-magnificent-monsters-for-dnd-5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p1" target="_blank">Asian Monsters</a>: $44k</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eventyrgames/merchants-of-magic-5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p2" target="_blank">Wanderer's Guide to Merchants & Magic</a>: $81k</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theorycraft-5e/theorycraft-dandd-5e-campaign-and-adventure-journal-5th-ed?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p3" target="_blank">THEORYCRAFT: D&D 5e CAMPAIGN & ADVENTURE JOURNAL</a>: $4k</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/devillich/the-crypt-of-the-devil-lich/description" target="_blank">Crypt of the Devil Lich for DCC RPG and 5th Edition</a>: $128k</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cawoodpublishing/monsters-of-the-wilderness-for-5th-edition" target="_blank">Monsters of the Wilderness for 5th Edition</a>: 55k</li> </ul><p>All of these are more than 100% funded. Some of them are more than 4,000% funded.</p><p></p><p>Goodman Games doesn't have some sort of big YouTube presence. (I think the most they do is throw up their largely unedited GaryCon panels in lieu of writing up the actual things they announced, for reasons.) TheoryCraft, which has made more than 600% of its goal, is just a guy with a nice product.</p><p></p><p>A product with a lot of demand will get a lot of pledges, if it looks good and it's well advertised. (The Oz 5E books are being advertised on both Facebook and YouTube I know, having seen the ads in both places.) But even a product that doesn't hit some magical ImagineGod rating for what constitutes a "success" are successfully funding their projects, which is the entire point of Kickstarter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8314851, member: 11760"] It's an opinion. Blue Rose has [I]three[/I] systems out there and the 5E version has been available on DriveThruRPG for months. It would be ludicrous to expect Blue Rose 5E to have a gigantic Kickstarter campaign to print a version of the game that the faithful are either are already playing with another system or snagged off DriveThruRPG months ago to check out the changes. I guess this is your first acquaintance with Oz fandom, which is huge, insular, sort of quiet and largely made up of folks GenX and older, many of them with disposable income, especially when you factor in the large number of LGBT fans. Ever since Wizard of Oz went public domain, there have been years of edgy "Oz [I]but dark[/I]" takes that fans have rolled their eyes at (search for Oz on Comixology and you'll find a ton of them). This is the first traditional take on Oz in the RPG space I'm aware of since Dragon magazine announced a big Oz article that never materialized in the 1980s. There's a [I]lot [/I]of pent-up demand for Oz 5E and no real pent-up demand for Blue Rose 5E, which still successfully funded its campaign. Are you just throwing darts at a board to decide where this theory goes? YouTube has nothing to do with anything else you're talking about. I get that you don't care about Oz and find its success surprising, but that's a you problem, not a Double Critical or Green Ronin problem, and certainly not a 5E problem. You want successful 5E Kickstarters? Here's a bunch, which took me less than 30 seconds to find: [LIST] [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/saltybot/monsterhunting5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p1']Heliana's Guide To Monster Hunting[/URL]: A DnD 5e Supplement: $1.2 million [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/asian-monsters-90-magnificent-monsters-for-dnd-5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p1']Asian Monsters[/URL]: $44k [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eventyrgames/merchants-of-magic-5e?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p2']Wanderer's Guide to Merchants & Magic[/URL]: $81k [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theorycraft-5e/theorycraft-dandd-5e-campaign-and-adventure-journal-5th-ed?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p3']THEORYCRAFT: D&D 5e CAMPAIGN & ADVENTURE JOURNAL[/URL]: $4k [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/devillich/the-crypt-of-the-devil-lich/description']Crypt of the Devil Lich for DCC RPG and 5th Edition[/URL]: $128k [*][URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cawoodpublishing/monsters-of-the-wilderness-for-5th-edition']Monsters of the Wilderness for 5th Edition[/URL]: 55k [/LIST] All of these are more than 100% funded. Some of them are more than 4,000% funded. Goodman Games doesn't have some sort of big YouTube presence. (I think the most they do is throw up their largely unedited GaryCon panels in lieu of writing up the actual things they announced, for reasons.) TheoryCraft, which has made more than 600% of its goal, is just a guy with a nice product. A product with a lot of demand will get a lot of pledges, if it looks good and it's well advertised. (The Oz 5E books are being advertised on both Facebook and YouTube I know, having seen the ads in both places.) But even a product that doesn't hit some magical ImagineGod rating for what constitutes a "success" are successfully funding their projects, which is the entire point of Kickstarter. [/QUOTE]
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