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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 4050550" data-attributes="member: 13637"><p>Well, only through the use of Fate/Hero points. Our archers were shredded when they tried to sneak around and explore. And when our thief type explored in the city with the zombie factory, she was also quickly discovered and zombie-swarmed. It seemed monumentally unsafe to be out and about, away from the party. </p><p></p><p>I recognize and appreciate that these bad effects never happened because they were fate-pointed away. But they were very definitely lessons in why not to split off from the party and look around too much. (although, it appears, unintentional.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which I certainly appreciated. My only point is that the mechanics of a game system can and do affect what players try to do with the game. I would like to try Savage Worlds myself. A game system that makes combat rather quick and not the center of the game, should encourage roleplaying. That should be a good test of "John's Theory of Game System Influence."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There have been a few good things I have heard which sound encouraging, and many things that leave me scratching my head. I'm leery of any new edition that is so incompatible with the old edition that it is nearly impossible to play or convert characters from one to edition to another. At that point, is it really a new edition or a completely new game?</p><p></p><p>One thing that sounds interesting is the default "points of light" setting. In it, the heroes and player races are besieged. Huddling together in small communities against the monsters and bad, creepy things, which command most of the world. Instead of most D&D settings, which are usually fairly settled kingdoms with bad things happening and monsters nibbling around on the edges. </p><p></p><p>Compare the "points of light" to say my current Greyhawk campaign. It is set in the Viscounty of Verbobonc, a fairly stable land surrounded by other fairly stable lands. The Temple of Elemental Evil is an aberration and one that has been sacked many times over the campaign's back story. The tension in walking from community to community just isn't there. (which, by the way, was one thing I liked about the Inzeladun game. It was really clear that it was a dangerous world with few safe havens.)</p><p></p><p>FWIW, the super game I am proposing is much more like the points of light campaign, than the standard superhero world where the heroes are big, public figures with headquarters and team names who thwart the villain of the month every month.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 4050550, member: 13637"] Well, only through the use of Fate/Hero points. Our archers were shredded when they tried to sneak around and explore. And when our thief type explored in the city with the zombie factory, she was also quickly discovered and zombie-swarmed. It seemed monumentally unsafe to be out and about, away from the party. I recognize and appreciate that these bad effects never happened because they were fate-pointed away. But they were very definitely lessons in why not to split off from the party and look around too much. (although, it appears, unintentional.) Which I certainly appreciated. My only point is that the mechanics of a game system can and do affect what players try to do with the game. I would like to try Savage Worlds myself. A game system that makes combat rather quick and not the center of the game, should encourage roleplaying. That should be a good test of "John's Theory of Game System Influence." There have been a few good things I have heard which sound encouraging, and many things that leave me scratching my head. I'm leery of any new edition that is so incompatible with the old edition that it is nearly impossible to play or convert characters from one to edition to another. At that point, is it really a new edition or a completely new game? One thing that sounds interesting is the default "points of light" setting. In it, the heroes and player races are besieged. Huddling together in small communities against the monsters and bad, creepy things, which command most of the world. Instead of most D&D settings, which are usually fairly settled kingdoms with bad things happening and monsters nibbling around on the edges. Compare the "points of light" to say my current Greyhawk campaign. It is set in the Viscounty of Verbobonc, a fairly stable land surrounded by other fairly stable lands. The Temple of Elemental Evil is an aberration and one that has been sacked many times over the campaign's back story. The tension in walking from community to community just isn't there. (which, by the way, was one thing I liked about the Inzeladun game. It was really clear that it was a dangerous world with few safe havens.) FWIW, the super game I am proposing is much more like the points of light campaign, than the standard superhero world where the heroes are big, public figures with headquarters and team names who thwart the villain of the month every month. [/QUOTE]
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