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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6259884" data-attributes="member: 58416">Bruce Lee fits the list because he partially redefined what people thought of when they considered the image of what a strong man was.Genghis Khan had to fight to reclaim what was stolen from him when his father was murdered.&nbsp; In many cases, personally fighting to do so.&nbsp; Likewise, it wasn't uncommon for him to lead from the front.That's just a small example, I could go into further detail about the others.&nbsp; Besides, there's far more involved in combat than simply swinging a sword; for many of the people on that list, they made their names because their mental grasp of warfare went beyond the length of their own arms.&nbsp; Maybe it's just me, but I don't find it an unusual concept to play a warrior who isn't just some dumb meathead; I likewise don't find it to be an unusual request for D&amp;D to make it possible to play a fighter without feeling as though I'm little more than a sidekick to the guys who get kewl powerz.&nbsp; I especially don't see either of those as being unusual when I consider that the warlord class has (supposedly) been ditched in favor of simply rolling that concept into the fighter class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 6259884, member: 58416"] Bruce Lee fits the list because he partially redefined what people thought of when they considered the image of what a strong man was. Genghis Khan had to fight to reclaim what was stolen from him when his father was murdered. In many cases, personally fighting to do so. Likewise, it wasn't uncommon for him to lead from the front. That's just a small example, I could go into further detail about the others. Besides, there's far more involved in combat than simply swinging a sword; for many of the people on that list, they made their names because their mental grasp of warfare went beyond the length of their own arms. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find it an unusual concept to play a warrior who isn't just some dumb meathead; I likewise don't find it to be an unusual request for D&D to make it possible to play a fighter without feeling as though I'm little more than a sidekick to the guys who get kewl powerz. I especially don't see either of those as being unusual when I consider that the warlord class has (supposedly) been ditched in favor of simply rolling that concept into the fighter class. [/QUOTE]

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