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<blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 5129641" data-attributes="member: 380">Just for the record Dual Implement Spellcaster only works with arcane powers.&nbsp; So while a monk could use a staff of ruin and benefit from its property, they wouldn't be able to use DIS with their monk powers, regardless of how you treat staff fighting.&nbsp; Regarding the rules and &quot;cheese&quot;.&nbsp; Since this is a shared community there is an expectation for the rules to work as they are written, it's the common language we all work with.&nbsp; While I recognize that this particular question isn't necessarily cut in dried in terms of interpretation, just declaring that you wouldn't let it work in your game because it's cheesy isn't really the best way of handling it.&nbsp; The rulings should be based on RAW, and if something is found wanting a proposal should be needed to change it, so that everyone can be on the same page.&nbsp;&nbsp; That said there is also a certain social contract at work here, and players shouldn't try to be deliberately abusive, but others need to realize that not everyone has the same standard when it comes to judging such things and that is why it is important for a community such as ours to work from a standardized baseline.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oni, post: 5129641, member: 380"] Just for the record Dual Implement Spellcaster only works with arcane powers. So while a monk could use a staff of ruin and benefit from its property, they wouldn't be able to use DIS with their monk powers, regardless of how you treat staff fighting. Regarding the rules and "cheese". Since this is a shared community there is an expectation for the rules to work as they are written, it's the common language we all work with. While I recognize that this particular question isn't necessarily cut in dried in terms of interpretation, just declaring that you wouldn't let it work in your game because it's cheesy isn't really the best way of handling it. The rulings should be based on RAW, and if something is found wanting a proposal should be needed to change it, so that everyone can be on the same page. That said there is also a certain social contract at work here, and players shouldn't try to be deliberately abusive, but others need to realize that not everyone has the same standard when it comes to judging such things and that is why it is important for a community such as ours to work from a standardized baseline. [/QUOTE]

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