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rule question: dual-implement spellcaster
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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 5134128" data-attributes="member: 74232"><p>It all in the double weapon rules. that's exactly what the rules say you are doing. "<span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="color: white">Wielding a double weapon is like wielding a weapon </span><span style="color: white">in each hand." (errata pg 32) </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="color: #ffffff">If you can show me how it's possible to holding two weapons with a double weapon? The rules say I can any that's what matters. The weapon 'magically' turns into 2 magic weapons and weapons can be used as implements. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="color: #ffffff">Can you say that the player isn't holding 2 magic staves? They can use powers that require 2 weapons right? They both have the same enchantment correct?</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="color: #ffffff">Or are you saying that magic weapon staves can't be used as implements, because the errata gives an example of just that.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="color: #ffffff">EDIT: One thing to keep in mind that by default, implement users can use the weapon group staff as implements, much like swordmages can use heavy blades. As such, they can use weapons not enchanted as an implement and use them as implement. As such they fall under the exact same rules as double swords.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"><span style="font-family: 'MentorSansStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #193e5e"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 5134128, member: 74232"] It all in the double weapon rules. that's exactly what the rules say you are doing. "[FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=white]Wielding a double weapon is like wielding a weapon [/COLOR][COLOR=white]in each hand." (errata pg 32) [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=#ffffff]If you can show me how it's possible to holding two weapons with a double weapon? The rules say I can any that's what matters. The weapon 'magically' turns into 2 magic weapons and weapons can be used as implements. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=#ffffff]Can you say that the player isn't holding 2 magic staves? They can use powers that require 2 weapons right? They both have the same enchantment correct?[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=#ffffff]Or are you saying that magic weapon staves can't be used as implements, because the errata gives an example of just that.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=#ffffff][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][FONT=MentorSansStd][SIZE=2][COLOR=#193e5e][COLOR=#ffffff]EDIT: One thing to keep in mind that by default, implement users can use the weapon group staff as implements, much like swordmages can use heavy blades. As such, they can use weapons not enchanted as an implement and use them as implement. As such they fall under the exact same rules as double swords.[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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