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<blockquote data-quote="Syrsuro" data-source="post: 4556953" data-attributes="member: 58162">A double move is simply using a move action to move and then downgrading the standard to a move action and moving again (with some bonus effects involving occupied midpoints and odd numbered speeds).&nbsp;To put it another way:&nbsp; Since you can always just do the downgrade listed above - anything that makes a double move less effective than two standard moves is clearly not credible.&nbsp;Since a standard move (not running) is 2, a double move is 4.&nbsp;And since a standard move (running) is 4, a 'double move' (running) is 8.&nbsp;The point is that the slow spell does NOT restrict your movement to 2 squares in a turn.&nbsp; A slow spell reduces your speed to 2.&nbsp; Your 'speed' is specifically defined as &quot;your base walking speed&quot; (page 283).&nbsp; &nbsp;And when you run, you move &quot;up to your speed +2&quot;.&nbsp; Again - your speed is now set to 2.&nbsp; So you run at 2+2 or 4.&nbsp; In a single move action.&nbsp; In two move actions, you can do that twice, for 8 squares.&nbsp; If the run action was written differently - if it said that your speed increased by two, then slow would reduce this to 2 (i.e. not allow it to be increased).&nbsp; But that is not how slow/run is defined.&nbsp;BTW:&nbsp; just to be clear, you crawl at 1 while slowed because you move at half your speed and your speed is 2.&nbsp;Also, because armor applies a penalty to your speed (which is now 2), wearing certain type of armor will reduce your speed to 1.&nbsp;Essentially - slow changes the base speed value for the character from 6 (or 5 or 7 depending on the race) to 2.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Carl</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Syrsuro, post: 4556953, member: 58162"] A double move is simply using a move action to move and then downgrading the standard to a move action and moving again (with some bonus effects involving occupied midpoints and odd numbered speeds). To put it another way: Since you can always just do the downgrade listed above - anything that makes a double move less effective than two standard moves is clearly not credible. Since a standard move (not running) is 2, a double move is 4. And since a standard move (running) is 4, a 'double move' (running) is 8. The point is that the slow spell does NOT restrict your movement to 2 squares in a turn. A slow spell reduces your speed to 2. Your 'speed' is specifically defined as "[FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]your base walking speed" (page 283). [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] And when you run, you move "up to your speed +2". Again - your speed is now set to 2. So you run at 2+2 or 4. In a single move action. In two move actions, you can do that twice, for 8 squares. If the run action was written differently - if it said that your speed increased by two, then slow would reduce this to 2 (i.e. not allow it to be increased). But that is not how slow/run is defined. BTW: just to be clear, you crawl at 1 while slowed because you move at half your speed and your speed is 2. Also, because armor applies a penalty to your speed (which is now 2), wearing certain type of armor will reduce your speed to 1. Essentially - slow changes the base speed value for the character from 6 (or 5 or 7 depending on the race) to 2. Carl [/QUOTE]

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