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<blockquote data-quote="shadowoflameth" data-source="post: 8528035" data-attributes="member: 62336"><p>With an invocation of the Cloud Rune, the new target becomes the target of the attack and of 'all it's effects with the same roll'. I read this that if the attack has advantage, then the higher roll becomes 'the same roll' meaning the roll that determines the hit. What if the triggering attacker is a rogue who uses sneak attack against the intended target. Does the new target take sneak attack as well? I tend to think that it would if sneak attack applied to the initial target because it's one of the effects of that attack, or would you rule that the second target needs to meet the sneak attack requirements for it to apply? or what if the initial target has Hex cast on it? Does Hex go off? I would think not since Hex is not an effect of the attack but of a prior casting of a spell? What if the attacker is an assassin rogue and the initial target is surprised but the secondary chosen target isn't? Would the effects of surprise apply to the new target? I'm sure there are other effects that may raise a question or lend themselves to shenanigans, what if the attack includes a grapple from up to 30' away? Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="shadowoflameth, post: 8528035, member: 62336"] With an invocation of the Cloud Rune, the new target becomes the target of the attack and of 'all it's effects with the same roll'. I read this that if the attack has advantage, then the higher roll becomes 'the same roll' meaning the roll that determines the hit. What if the triggering attacker is a rogue who uses sneak attack against the intended target. Does the new target take sneak attack as well? I tend to think that it would if sneak attack applied to the initial target because it's one of the effects of that attack, or would you rule that the second target needs to meet the sneak attack requirements for it to apply? or what if the initial target has Hex cast on it? Does Hex go off? I would think not since Hex is not an effect of the attack but of a prior casting of a spell? What if the attacker is an assassin rogue and the initial target is surprised but the secondary chosen target isn't? Would the effects of surprise apply to the new target? I'm sure there are other effects that may raise a question or lend themselves to shenanigans, what if the attack includes a grapple from up to 30' away? Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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