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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Farquhar" data-source="post: 8223502" data-attributes="member: 6906155">I've seen this claim before, so I tested it with four 1st level pregens downloaded from the official site. It was tight, but the party won without any fatalities.But as pointed out, the quest is an excuse for players to search the Ten Towns doing quests along the way. It's not meant to be completed at first level. My players where second level when they found him, and ended up fighting most of Torga's camp at the same time, but still won quite handily.If anything, I have found the difficulty bar in RotFM is set too low.Players can try and take him alive (mine did), but since[ISPOILER] he is already dead[/ISPOILER], they won't be able to.</blockquote>