S@squ@tch's Against the Giants - Team Black OOC - Grinding


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quick rule question, does casting grease on the ground under an opponent count as an attack that breaks invisibility because it is an area of effect encompassing a foe or an indirect action that does not break invisibility because it is cast on the ground?
 

I would say that it would break Voadam's invisibility, because the area and/or effect includes a foe.

The RAW kind of contradict themselves -- "causing harm indirectly is not an attack" and "an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe". But I think the spirit of the language would classify the Grease spell as an attack.

If the Grease was cast without the tiger in its AoE to start with, then it would not be considered an attack.
 


Redclaw said:
He could grease Sanne, however, providing her with a bonus on the escape artist attempt to escape the grapple.

You beat me to my question. :) Will it break my invis to cast the spell on an ally to boost their escape as opposed to under the feet of an opponent to cause a fall? I'm going to do it either way but wondering how you will rule.

"Wonder Red needs help! To the rescue!"
 


Redclaw said:
Does that make Voadam Princess Presto? Thanor is definitely Alpha Pig. :cool:
No of course n. . . . crap I've even got the wand. :)

"Let's turn the 'S' in 'Psuedonatural tiger with SR' into a 'D' to make it a 'pseudonatural tiger with DR', then I can cast my scorching ray without worrying about spell resistance! Presto Changeo. Yay!"
 
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Redclaw said:
He could grease Sanne, however, providing her with a bonus on the escape artist attempt to escape the grapple.

... and to a conventional grapple check, which works slightly better for her, as she has no ranks in Eascape Artist (before any spells and/or special effects come into play, it's a +7 vs a +4).
 

I took a gander at her skills earlier today and noticed the lack of escape artist -- and was shocked, SHOCKED, I say to find a swashbuckler who didn't need to get out of bindings! ;)

I would think that casting the Grease on Sanne would not be considered an attack on the tiger, so no break in Invisibility.


"Let's turn the 'S' in 'Psuedonatural tiger with SR' into a 'D' to make it a 'pseudonatural tiger with DR', then I can cast my scorching ray without worrying about spell resistance! Presto Changeo. Yay!"

How 'bout we compromise and give it both? ;)
 

s@squ@tch said:
I took a gander at her skills earlier today and noticed the lack of escape artist -- and was shocked, SHOCKED, I say to find a swashbuckler who didn't need to get out of bindings! ;)

She can get of bindings. That's what the ranks in diplomacy are for :).
 

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