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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7476481" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Look I know you like to rage against Planescape as some kind of evil overlord setting that forced other settings under it's cosmology...but what you are stating above is just wrong. Krynn was part of the Great Wheel cosmology way before Planescape came along. Just a few examples include... the 1e Manual of the planes stating Takhisis and Tiamat are the same being. There being Darklords who originated on Krynn in Ravenloft, which was published 4 years before Planescape was, The Wizard Three articles in Dragon which also predated Planescape. Sorry but Dragonlance was always connected to the Great Wheel, and it's inhabitants were originally portrayed as not knowing about the greater cosmology they were actually a part of... that is until 3e retroactively gave DL it's own separate cosmology. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep as tricky as Tasselhoff Burrfoot teaming up with Demogorgon to stop Magus... Oh wait that actually did happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But that's not what Planescape as a setting actually does at all. The denizens of Sigil could be just as or more mistaken about what they believe to be the "true" nature of the planes as they believe the inhabitants of DL, FR Eberron or Dark Sun (when they actually have the luxury of contemplating it) are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean Tiamat... right??</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine...Do you mean the Great Wheel... as in 1e's Great Wheel??</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure they can, the layers of the Abyss are infinite I'm sure some of them hold entire other-planets and I guarantee nothing in the Planescape Campaign setting says this is impossible...</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are volcanoes in Hell that they can live under... and again Planescape doesn't say this is impossible.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait so which is it... The Great Wheel or Planescape??</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Preference baffles you? Well I can only say I personally find Planescape to be one of the most intriguing, interesting and cool places TSR published to run a camapign in... certainly no more tired, rehashed and lacking in originality than it's continuously published pseudo-europe settings that vary only in slightly tweaked ways. But hey different strokes for different folks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7476481, member: 48965"] Look I know you like to rage against Planescape as some kind of evil overlord setting that forced other settings under it's cosmology...but what you are stating above is just wrong. Krynn was part of the Great Wheel cosmology way before Planescape came along. Just a few examples include... the 1e Manual of the planes stating Takhisis and Tiamat are the same being. There being Darklords who originated on Krynn in Ravenloft, which was published 4 years before Planescape was, The Wizard Three articles in Dragon which also predated Planescape. Sorry but Dragonlance was always connected to the Great Wheel, and it's inhabitants were originally portrayed as not knowing about the greater cosmology they were actually a part of... that is until 3e retroactively gave DL it's own separate cosmology. Yep as tricky as Tasselhoff Burrfoot teaming up with Demogorgon to stop Magus... Oh wait that actually did happen. But that's not what Planescape as a setting actually does at all. The denizens of Sigil could be just as or more mistaken about what they believe to be the "true" nature of the planes as they believe the inhabitants of DL, FR Eberron or Dark Sun (when they actually have the luxury of contemplating it) are. You mean Tiamat... right?? Emphasis mine...Do you mean the Great Wheel... as in 1e's Great Wheel?? Sure they can, the layers of the Abyss are infinite I'm sure some of them hold entire other-planets and I guarantee nothing in the Planescape Campaign setting says this is impossible... I'm sure there are volcanoes in Hell that they can live under... and again Planescape doesn't say this is impossible. Wait so which is it... The Great Wheel or Planescape?? Preference baffles you? Well I can only say I personally find Planescape to be one of the most intriguing, interesting and cool places TSR published to run a camapign in... certainly no more tired, rehashed and lacking in originality than it's continuously published pseudo-europe settings that vary only in slightly tweaked ways. But hey different strokes for different folks. [/QUOTE]
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