Save or DIE spells level by level.

[Cloudgatherer]

Wall of Force is supposed to have a reflex save to avoid it (like the other walls spells). I'm almost certain it is in the errata.

 

[Caliban]

Wall of Force is supposed to have a reflex save to avoid it (like the other walls spells). I'm almost certain it is in the errata.

I'm afraid it's not. I've looked. In fact, the FAQ confirms that it does not have a reflex save.

This is addressed in 3.5, although not in the way you might think.

 

[Number47]

Death Knell is a save or die spell, even though you are pretty much dead already.

Clarification: Prismatic Wall is an eighth level spell, correct? List above has it at seventh.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I'm afraid it's not. I've looked. In fact, the FAQ confirms that it does not have a reflex save.

This is addressed in 3.5, although not in the way you might think.

If it doens't have a save it's still wrong.


Actually I'm expecting an expensive component of some kind. Though I'd like a move away from components, and give exceptional spells an xp cost.

And either a level bump or a component would work as a balance IMO. Stoneskin may be great but I enver cast it because it costs too much.

 

[Caliban]

If it doens't have a save it's still wrong.


Actually I'm expecting an expensive component of some kind. Though I'd like a move away from components, and give exceptional spells an xp cost.

And either a level bump or a component would work as a balance IMO. Stoneskin may be great but I enver cast it because it costs too much.

It's not the solution your thinking of.

You will see soon. I wish I could say more.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

Oh well, I appreciate you sticking with your NDA. people who do make playtesting a more common occurance, and all RPG books need good playtesters.

 

[Cloudgatherer]

I'm afraid it's not. I've looked. In fact, the FAQ confirms that it does not have a reflex save.

I could *swear* a sage e-mail said it was supposed to have a reflex save.... Otherwise, I could have a lot of fun with this spell... I've been using it primarily for defense (as I thing that is the spirit of the spell), but this could easily be abused during combat by trapping anyone who can't teleport (fighters, rogues, rangers, paladins, even clerics). Essentially, it becomes a "no save, no SR and be removed from combat" spell.

This is addressed in 3.5, although not in the way you might think.

Of course not. some of the 3.5 changes make sense, others are from left field...