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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 1791521" data-attributes="member: 6777"><p>I had thought part of the concept was that it was transferable to D&D. That's why it doesn't have its own DMG and core MM. That's why short appendicies are usually enough to make the D&D spells in Malhavoc products useable in AU.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The point of the OGL was to drive sales of the PHB by encouraging companies to adopt d20 as a system. That 3rd-party publishers are able to fill certain product niches that WotC can't afford to bother with on a regular basis is another happy side-effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think there was ever any guarantee made by WotC that they would avoid compteing with other companies in terms of subject matter. Conversely, this never stopped, e.g., WW from putting out a monster book (CC1) before WotC could. Other companies have also produced plenty of products that essentially serve as substitutes for the PHB.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Slaine</em> has been dead for a couple years now. I don't know if one can say that GR has "shifted" product in favor of M&M. They produce far more D&D-related product, and it's that product that seems to make them money. As I understand it, M&M isn't even particularly profitable.</p><p></p><p>AU is probably the most successful, but that could simply be becasue it's really, really good and it has Monte Cook's name on it. Still, their D&D product outnumbers their AU product about 2:1.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, the tone and focus of their supplements is 180-degrees from standard D&D. <em>Occult Lore</em> was basically ArM's <em>The Mysteries</em> translated to d20. <em>In the Belly of the Beast</em>, <em>Ascention of the Magdalene</em>, and <em>Sundered Peace</em> are almost all role-playing and minimal combat. And Nyambe? Big HC books on love, crime, and politics?</p><p></p><p>This stuff was all awesome, but not your typical D&D cup o' tea.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Only John Nephew can say for sure. IIRC, they simply make a lot more money with their card games (card games are generally in their top three sales spots). With the d20 boom over, it seems reasonable to scale back Penumbra to focus on other things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buzz, post: 1791521, member: 6777"] I had thought part of the concept was that it was transferable to D&D. That's why it doesn't have its own DMG and core MM. That's why short appendicies are usually enough to make the D&D spells in Malhavoc products useable in AU. The point of the OGL was to drive sales of the PHB by encouraging companies to adopt d20 as a system. That 3rd-party publishers are able to fill certain product niches that WotC can't afford to bother with on a regular basis is another happy side-effect. I don't think there was ever any guarantee made by WotC that they would avoid compteing with other companies in terms of subject matter. Conversely, this never stopped, e.g., WW from putting out a monster book (CC1) before WotC could. Other companies have also produced plenty of products that essentially serve as substitutes for the PHB. [i]Slaine[/i] has been dead for a couple years now. I don't know if one can say that GR has "shifted" product in favor of M&M. They produce far more D&D-related product, and it's that product that seems to make them money. As I understand it, M&M isn't even particularly profitable. AU is probably the most successful, but that could simply be becasue it's really, really good and it has Monte Cook's name on it. Still, their D&D product outnumbers their AU product about 2:1. IMO, the tone and focus of their supplements is 180-degrees from standard D&D. [i]Occult Lore[/i] was basically ArM's [i]The Mysteries[/i] translated to d20. [i]In the Belly of the Beast[/i], [i]Ascention of the Magdalene[/i], and [i]Sundered Peace[/i] are almost all role-playing and minimal combat. And Nyambe? Big HC books on love, crime, and politics? This stuff was all awesome, but not your typical D&D cup o' tea. Only John Nephew can say for sure. IIRC, they simply make a lot more money with their card games (card games are generally in their top three sales spots). With the d20 boom over, it seems reasonable to scale back Penumbra to focus on other things. [/QUOTE]
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