D&D 5E (2014) See Invisibility: awareness of Invisibility

[DEFCON 1]

What better way to make players use a barely-used spell even less often than to make it even more of a hassle to use effectively. That is certainly a choice!

Let's all figure out ways to cripple the usage of Detect Poison while we're at it, LOL!

 

[CleverNickName]

I remember one of my players rolling his eyes when his see invisible spell wouldn't let him perceive ethereal monsters. (They were fighting a ghost.)

"Why do you need so many different ways to @#%$& us over?" he asked, sarcastically. "If you don't want us to see your monsters, fine, but why make us waste our time with stuff like darkvision and blindsight and see invisible?"

Twenty years later and I still don't have a good answer for that.

 

[Mannahnin]

I remember one of my players rolling his eyes when his see invisible spell wouldn't let him perceive ethereal monsters. (They were fighting a ghost.)

"Why do you need so many different ways to @#%$& us over?" he asked, sarcastically. "If you don't want us to see your monsters, fine, but why make us waste our time with stuff like darkvision and blindsight and see invisible?"

Twenty years later and I still don't have a good answer for that.

Which edition was that? I remember (and just double-checked) that in 3rd See Invisibility explicitly did let you see ethereal creatures, just as Detect Invisibility did in AD&D.

 

[CleverNickName]

Which edition was that? I remember (and just double-checked) that in 3rd See Invisibility explicitly did let you see ethereal creatures, just as Detect Invisibility did in AD&D.

I don't remember, I thought it was 3E but it was a while ago...it's possible it was 5E and my timeframe is off? I just remember my players were really salty about how some monsters have "super-invisibility" now and it wasn't worth trying to circumvent it.

"Don't bother casting it (True Seeing) because the next monster will be invisible and super-invisible and hiding," he groaned.

They clearly weren't having fun.