Self = Ally? Leading the Charge (TOB)

DarkJester

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Does the stance "Leading the Charge" (White Raven, page 90ish?) from TOB allow you to grant the bonus charge damage to yourself? I don't have my book here, but I believe the text goes something like: ~All allies who can hear you during battle gain....~.

Any ideas?
 

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DarkJester said:
Does the stance "Leading the Charge" (White Raven, page 90ish?) from TOB allow you to grant the bonus charge damage to yourself? I don't have my book here, but I believe the text goes something like: ~All allies who can hear you during battle gain....~.

Any ideas?
My take on all the White Raven ally stuff is "no". I do let bards count as their own ally though...

Mark
 


The best answer would be no, IMHO, if only because "ally = self" can lead to some serious infinite-loop craziness with White Raven Tactics.
 

White Raven Tactics inherently leads to infinite loops. All you need is two PC's with it and it springs right out. It's just a broken maneuver that should have been caught in development. (anything that messes with initiative should raise redflags when playtesting.)
 

Since some of the White Raven maneuvers say they apply to "allies" and some say they apply to "yourself and allies," I think it's safe to say the former do not affect the initiator.
 

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