Sex and the Single Jedi

[Prince Atom]

No One Said They Didn't....

No one ever said the Jedi didn't procreate.

The fact that Luke is Vader's son doesn't seem to have raised too many eyebrows. No one said "Oh, hey there, bastard boy. You don't have a father. Come, let the Dark Side be your father...."

...or words to that effect.

It's just that everyone assumes the Jedi are chaste. It's like they're monks or priests or something. Having done this, again, no one says squat about Anakin's children. Maybe that's because Vader's from the Dark Side -- he's not supposed to uphold the moral code of the Jedi.

On the other hand, no one ever said the Jedi did procreate. For all we know, Anakin's "father" is the Force itself, and that's a common practice for the energy field. It's just that it's been careful up til now, giving mothers a plausible explanation in the form of mortal fathers. These changelings the Force introduces would then go on to be Jedi.

Tricky, these energy fields....

TWK

Hey, c'mon, everyone knows STAR WARS isn't about sex!

 

[saduff]

Well if he is just using women for sex then that is something of the Darkside.

 

[LostSoul]

Well if he is just using women for sex then that is something of the Darkside.

Is it okay if he uses men or other species for sex, along with women?

What if the women just want sex from the Jedi? Is that still a bad thing? Does it make a difference if the Jedi is upfront about his desires?

 

[RodneyThompson]

Star Wars is a galaxy of black and white: there is no gray. As such, I believe that the two primary avenues of sexuality would be closed to the Jedi: love, and lust. Love equates to attachment, despite Anakin's halfhearted attempts at justifying how he feels about Padme. In fact, George Lucas has said in so many words that it is Anakin's inability to do without his attachment to her that drives him to the Dark Side; love, one of the primary things that leads to sex, IS forbidden for the Jedi.

Secondly, lust. In addition to the fact that the Jedi are based on a number of real life religions as well as organizations, many of which condemn lust, the simple desire to get your rocks off smacks of a violation of the Jedi Code: There is no emotion, there is peace. To give in to lust like that is to let your primal urges control you, rather than keeping yourself at peace and without the need to procreate.

Let's be honest here, folks. Sex doesn't have any place in Star Wars if you follow the movies. The only example of Jedi having sex is Anakin Skywalker and Padme, which is a pretty strong argument against Jedi sexuality since Anakin becomes the most evil person ever. A whoring Jedi seems not only rife with problems but also VERY un-Star Wars. But then again, I'm very much a purist; I believe if you want to play Star Wars, you play Star Wars, and sticking close to the themes of the movies is what it's all about. But I'm not here to rain on your parade, just offering my outlook on the whole thing.

 

[LostSoul]

There is no emotion, there is peace.

I can't agree with this statement (if it is taken literally). The fact is that there IS emotion; Jedi repressing emotion doesn't seem like a good way to reach peace. Perhaps this part of the Jedi code means that the way to reach peace is through the proper expression of emotion.

I think if "there is no emotion", Jedi are just robots with fancy laser-swords, and the Force is no more mystical or spiritual than gravity.

I believe that the Force IS emotion. I think that Love is very important to a Jedi, and sex can be more than just getting your rocks off.

 

[Vaxalon]

Remember, we're not talking about the actual morality of the universe, we're looking at how a Jedi council dominated by the Universal Force (as opposed to Qui Gon Jinn's Living Force) would view it.

Personally, I have no doubt that Qui Gon has an occasional fling when it's the right thing to do, that is, when the force moves him to it.

Mace Windu, on the other hand, presents the appearance of someone who hasn't had any in a long, LONG time.

Imagine, if you will, a little cross-genre situation, where a Jedi visits Raisa (from STNG) on in interdimensional diplomatic mission and is expected, as a gesture of trust, to share the bed of one or two of the natives. Would he do it? Certainly. His "heart" might not be in it, but if he were a good Jedi he'd do what needed to be done, and deal with the psychic consequences afterwards. If he felt like he was falling in love, he might retreat to someplace secluded for a while, and let the feeling pass.

That's not to say that they would seek out such experiences, however.