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Shadow Conjuration?

Jack Haggerty said:

Remember, the other advantage to this spell, is that it allows you to (sort of) cast Summon Monster spells as a Standard Action, instead of a Full-round Action.

Therefore making it totally obvious to anyone with 3 ranks in Spellcraft, or even a few levels of experience, that its an Illusion.

"What is that? A HALF Quicken?"
 

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Of course, the problem with automatically trying to disbelieve any summoned creature that takes less than a full round to cast is that your DM will have a foe research a summon monster spell that is one level higher, so Summon Monster VI will be 7th level and have a 1 action casting time. :)
 

Zhure said:
Any of the Shadow Conjuration chain can be used to make Shadow Sheep (or at least something similar) by emulating Summon Monster X.

Greg

Shepherds must be tough cookies in your campaign !
 

Zhure said:
Shades could be used to emulate Fabricate... that would take care of the whole "shadow cloak" and the like. Any of the Shadow Conjuration chain can be used to make Shadow Sheep (or at least something similar) by emulating Summon Monster X.

Greg
Well, no you cannot.

Fabricate is a Transmutation spell, so it cannot be emulated. Besides it doesn't create anything but is used to "convert material of one sort into a product that is of the same material" so it's a whole different thing.

Summon Monster spells summon outsiders (extraplanar creatures) and sheep reside on the material plane (is it still called that) so they cannot be summoned.
 

Jens said:
Summon Monster spells summon outsiders (extraplanar creatures) and sheep reside on the material plane (is it still called that) so they cannot be summoned.

So you summon a celestial or fiendish sheep.

Which brings to mind the question... Do fiendish sheep produce steel wool? ;)

*ducks to avoid thrown items*
 

"Therefore making it totally obvious to anyone with 3 ranks in Spellcraft, or even a few levels of experience, that its an Illusion.

"What is that? A HALF Quicken?""

Ya still gotta make that will save, bub. :D
 
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durath said:
"Therefore making it totally obvious to anyone with 3 ranks in Spellcraft, or even a few levels of experience, that its an Illusion.

"What is that? A HALF Quicken?""

Ya still gotta make that will save, bub. :D

With a bonus though. Rule of Two says a +2, but I might modify that by a Spellcraft check. Its all up to DM interpretation, the main point being it is obviouslly NOT a standard Summoning spell and a crafty PC/NPC will know that.
 

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