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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 3597260" data-attributes="member: 319">Really? I guess it just comes down to the way the games we played in have been GMed, because your experiences just don't match mine. Actual soldiers (not goons with assault rifles, professional troops - with military-grade weapons, ammo and armor, and the training to use them) would be a very serious threat in any game I played in.Same thing with target numbers, even someone really twinked-out still ought to have to deal with the +4 TN for cover often enough that - while TNs of 3 or 4 will be common - you can't count on them. (and things get worse if you actually enforce all the mods for movement, switching targets, etc.)Finally, I have to admit shotguns never entered into the equation, because, again, in all the games I played in the GM had either always house-ruled the ridiculous choke/spread rules, or everyone at the table agreed to unilaterally suspend any use of shot rounds...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 3597260, member: 319"] Really? I guess it just comes down to the way the games we played in have been GMed, because your experiences just don't match mine. Actual soldiers (not goons with assault rifles, professional troops - with military-grade weapons, ammo and armor, and the training to use them) would be a very serious threat in any game I played in. Same thing with target numbers, even someone really twinked-out still ought to have to deal with the +4 TN for cover often enough that - while TNs of 3 or 4 will be common - you can't count on them. (and things get worse if you actually enforce all the mods for movement, switching targets, etc.) Finally, I have to admit shotguns never entered into the equation, because, again, in all the games I played in the GM had either always house-ruled the ridiculous choke/spread rules, or everyone at the table agreed to unilaterally suspend any use of shot rounds... [/QUOTE]

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