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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 4605819" data-attributes="member: 58401">I think you're being a tad disingenuous here about the 4E cosmology, Shemeska, at least to the extent that I understand each of these concepts.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 4E, any of the creatures formerly known as "Yugoloths" can still exist, and some already do. There's no layers/realms/dominions/demiplanes explicitly devoted to them, but the MotP explains that there are plenty of astral dominions which haven't yet been written about.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 4E, there's no Modrons officially written up, but there's plenty of space in the Astral Sea for you to put them.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 4E, again, there is plenty of room for the Outlands in the Astral Sea.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 4E, there is a Blood War; it revolves around Asmodeus trying to claim for himself the shard of ultimate evil at the "bottom" of the Abyss, in order to lord over even the other gods. The demons oppose the diabolical legions because they would prefer the universe destroyed rather than dominated. Generally, the 4E Blood War is microcosmic of the struggle between the gods and the primordials.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 4E, there are the same Eladrin powers that existed previously, except now they are explicitly Fey rather than Celestial. (Keep in mind that even though the Feywild is the general home of the fey, many live in the Astral Sea as well. For example, Corellon's Astral Dominion makes "worldfall" into the Feywild at times.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In general in 4E, no, there aren't any celestials, as they existed in previous editions. There are Angels, and even these are not explicitly good, but rather explicitly devoted to the gods. Still, there's plenty of room for them in the Astral Sea...</li> </ul></blockquote>

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