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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9414754" data-attributes="member: 7044462">Solid mid range PC from 10 y ago ( something in 600-700 euro range) is pretty decent machine even today, unless you are gamer. It probably has something like quad core i5, at least 8 (but usually 16) gb of ddr3, R9 270/280X, maybe even ssd. That's plenty good for someone who does either light gaming or no gaming. I still have my 2014 HP Envy laptop as primary personal laptop. It was pricey back then (about 1500e+-), with i7, 16gb of ddr, gforce 840m 2gb and 2x1tb wd hdd. Only thing i did was replace 1 hdd with ssd and bought new battery. Win10 came with laptop. It works well for usual everyday use (internet, netflix, office, even some light work in SiemensNX/Catia). It can serve for at least couple more years, especially with Linux on it. Unless you do lot's of modern gaming, 4k video editing or do some serious 3d cad/cam, solid 10y old PC-s do just fine. Phones had more of hardware advancement, but their biggest problem is battery. 5 y old flagship, with new battery, is still very viable phone for average user (something like Galaxy S10 or Huawei P30). We kind of peaked with pc/phone hardware and there is very little incentive for average/ undemanding users to buy new tech often.</blockquote>