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Short Rest Classes: Is the "Short Rest Problem" a "Monk Problem"
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8745533" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>If you actually think about the numbers Monks get a lot of ki. A 6th level Monk has 6 ki. If you assume a short rest every 2 battles and a battle lasts 3-4 rounds on average that is roughly enough ki to use one ki every single turn in combat. A 12th level Monk can use 2 ki just about every single turn. That is plenty ..... as long as you are not wasting it.</p><p></p><p>The only reason Monks seem to need a short rest is because players spam flurry of blows and stunning strike. Wizards would need more rests too if you allowed them to cast 5 leveled spells in a round.</p><p></p><p>It is almost never a good idea to use flurry of blows. Compared to just using martial arts, flurry of blows does about 8 more damage if it hits (more at high levels less at low levels). When you take hit chance into consideration that number is more like 5 damage in exchange for your ki. That is not a smart use of ki. Maybe if you think the BBEG has less than 10hps left AND you are pretty confident you can hit him twice AND none of your party members are going to take him out before his turn. In that case it might be a good idea. Otherwise it is almost always a bad idea.</p><p></p><p>Stunning Strike is awesome against enemies with low constitution, especially those with a low constitution and magic resistance. Against most enemies it is good but not great because the save is not that hard. Stunning the boss is game changing, but a lot of bosses are going to make that save easily and those enemies that aren't going to easily save are usually attacking you in numbers where stunning one of them for a round is not that big an effect.</p><p></p><p>If Monks pretty much never used FOB and used their stunning strikes more strategically they would have plenty of ki. It is rare to find one that plays like that though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8745533, member: 7030563"] If you actually think about the numbers Monks get a lot of ki. A 6th level Monk has 6 ki. If you assume a short rest every 2 battles and a battle lasts 3-4 rounds on average that is roughly enough ki to use one ki every single turn in combat. A 12th level Monk can use 2 ki just about every single turn. That is plenty ..... as long as you are not wasting it. The only reason Monks seem to need a short rest is because players spam flurry of blows and stunning strike. Wizards would need more rests too if you allowed them to cast 5 leveled spells in a round. It is almost never a good idea to use flurry of blows. Compared to just using martial arts, flurry of blows does about 8 more damage if it hits (more at high levels less at low levels). When you take hit chance into consideration that number is more like 5 damage in exchange for your ki. That is not a smart use of ki. Maybe if you think the BBEG has less than 10hps left AND you are pretty confident you can hit him twice AND none of your party members are going to take him out before his turn. In that case it might be a good idea. Otherwise it is almost always a bad idea. Stunning Strike is awesome against enemies with low constitution, especially those with a low constitution and magic resistance. Against most enemies it is good but not great because the save is not that hard. Stunning the boss is game changing, but a lot of bosses are going to make that save easily and those enemies that aren't going to easily save are usually attacking you in numbers where stunning one of them for a round is not that big an effect. If Monks pretty much never used FOB and used their stunning strikes more strategically they would have plenty of ki. It is rare to find one that plays like that though. [/QUOTE]
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