Shot on the Run

[Lord Pendragon]

Nope, I'm saying,that instead of readying, F can do that (except for the ready part). Basically F ignores A completely and focuses on someone else (C). If A then decides to stay out of his hiding place, then F concentrates on A.

So your strategy would look something like this:

F: Fires full attack at A.
A: Fires full attack at F, 5-foot-steps behind wall.
F: Fires full attack at C.
A: SotR single attack at F.
F: Fires full attack at C.
A: 5-foot-steps out from behind wall, full attack at F.
F: Fires full attack at A.

etc. etc. Where F simply chooses to full attack A when he's available, and ignore him when he's not. This is certainly a viable tactic. I'd still argue that SotR is useful here, though, in keeping the archer alive and kicking. He can trade full attacks with F as long as his hp hold, then use SotR to contribute one attack each round while not being killed. Again, it's not Power Attack, but still very useful, IMO.

 

[Thanee]

Yep.

Well, SotR is surely useful in some situations, but not enough to be worth spending a feat on, IMHO, unless you are a Fighter and do not know what to do with all those bonus feats.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Well, SotR is surely useful in some situations, but not enough to be worth spending a feat on, IMHO, unless you are a Fighter and do not know what to do with all those bonus feats.

Odd, I again tend to think the opposite. The fighter gets a d10 hit die and full plate armor. He can stand the heat so he never has to get out of the kitchen. The archer-ranger is another story. A d8 hit die and light armor. Or worse, the archer-rogue, with his d6 hit die and light armor. For either of these archers, SotR is a very good defensive maneuver to use after you've taken a few hits from the opposition's ranged support.

I think we've come to the point, though, where we just agree to disagree.

 

[Thanee]

Yeah, well, I just think there are plenty better choices available, even for a pure archer.

Bye
Thanee

 

[hong]

Odd, I again tend to think the opposite. The fighter gets a d10 hit die and full plate armor. He can stand the heat so he never has to get out of the kitchen. The archer-ranger is another story. A d8 hit die and light armor.

The archer-ranger has d8 HD, light armour, and _high Dex_. For that matter, chances are the archer-fighter will also have light armour, due to high Dex.

Or worse, the archer-rogue, with his d6 hit die and light armor.

I would think most archer-rogues would tend to take advantage of invisibility and improved invis to get as many sneak attack shots as they can.

For either of these archers, SotR is a very good defensive maneuver to use after you've taken a few hits from the opposition's ranged support.

In the last campaign I was in, that went from 5th to ~21st level, I think there may have been two situations in two years where SotR would have proved useful. IME, there just aren't that many occasions where cover is a major factor in a fight. It's generally not the archer who has to worry about getting ripped a new one anyway, it's the poor sods who get into melee combat.

For this same reason, Spring Attack is golden. A lot of monsters are melee brutes that can tear apart anyone who's foolish enough to spend rounds in full attack distance of them. Much better to hit, then move out, than stand there and cop it.

 

[heggland]

Irrelevant again

Because insulting their father carries a risk that you might get the wrong person.

The right person being the ... mother? Why not insult the person in question, instead of unrelated relatives?

 

[green slime]

Well, in Norway, you may be unrelated to your relatives. Meanwhile, the rest of us on this planet has relatives that are related to us in some manner...

 

[Nail]

Priceless.

 

[heggland]

Priceless.

You're welcome. But that still does not answer my question.

 

[Thanee]

heggland, just in case, that question of yours is serious (I'm honestly not sure about that )...

Insulting the mother is a way to indirectly insult the child.

It really is meant as a "direct insult", however, like when saying "your mother was a pig", that basically means, that you must be one, too.

Bye
Thanee