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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9155623" data-attributes="member: 7030563">The non-caster classes have alternative solutions too.  This false strawman that martials are only allowed to do P/B/S is part of the problem.The idea that the core class builds do not have other options is patently false.  Every single character in 5E has access to Radiant, Fire, Acid and Poison through holy water, oil and torches, Alchemists Fire, Acid vials and poisons, and because of extra attack and fighting styles martials even using only core class attributes can still use those things more effectively than non-martials can.Further non-casters have access to other damage types through subclass options they choose, similar to how casters have access through the spells they choose.  Take these subclass options if you want to be able to do additional types of damage aside from what you can already do with the basic mundane equipment available to everyone.This false narrative that martials are only able to do P/B/S damage is the real problem in this discussion.  The whole point of damage resistance is to encourage use of other options and the point of immunity is to force you to use other options.As an example any 5th level fighter fighting a CR6 Vrock can deal 4d6 Radiant damage throwing holy water using no daily resources.  For comparison, a 5th level Wizard, using one of his two 3rd level spells of the day to cast Fireball or Lightning Bolt does the same base damage to the demon.  The only Wizard spell option I can think of at this level that will actually do more damage than the basic fighter attack action is a 3rd level magic missile, which is only slightly more and it comes at a much higher resource cost.Let the fighter go nova with action surge and he can do 8d6.  Make him a battlemaster with menacing attack and he 8d6+4d8 and force four saves against being frightened.  And the resources the Battlemaster used all come back on a short rest.</blockquote>

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