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Should martial characters be mundane or supernatural?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9156519" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Monks in games I play use weapons more than they use unarmed strikes, mostly because weapons do more damage until very high levels. Moreso if you find magic weapons with either pluses or other boosts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This I disagree with. You get a ton from 5th to 10th level:</p><p></p><p>Fighters: 2 subclass abilities, 2 feats, indomitable</p><p>Rogues: 1 subclass ability, 2d6 sneak attack, 2 feats</p><p>Barbarians: 2 subclass abilities, brutal critical, pounce, primal knowlege, feral instinct and a feat</p><p>Monks: 1 subclass ability, Evasion, Stillness of Mind, +5 move, purity of body, 4ki and a feat</p><p></p><p>They all get a proficiency increase too which improves attack rolls and a lot of abilities they get.</p><p></p><p>As a simple example an Eldritch Knight with an 18 strength (let me know if I should use something else) at 5th level swinging a longsword and dueling is doing 14 DPR vs AC 15. The same Eldritch Knight at level 10 with a 20 strength using War Magic is doing 21DPR primary damage to one enemy and if another enemy is within 5 feet he is doing another 5 DPR give or take to that other enemy. That is without considering the third feat he got or using any limited resources.</p><p></p><p>Another example - a Phantom Rogue with 18 strength and a Rapier at 5th level is doing 13DPR vs AC15 (no advantage) to one enemy and three times a day he will do another 5 to a second enemy. The same Rogue at 10th level is doing 21 to one enemy and four times a day he will do another 8 to a second enemy. Again that is not considering the third feat he got.</p><p></p><p>To be honest you generally get more from 6-10th level than you get from 13th-20th.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mundanes are not sexy, by definition. However non-casters in 5E have a bunch of supernatural subclass options that are both sexy and effective.</p><p></p><p>The mundane options are put there purposely for players who don't want sexy. That is the whole point of those subclasses. If you want sexy why aren't you playing one of the more sexy subclasses with your martial?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9156519, member: 7030563"] Monks in games I play use weapons more than they use unarmed strikes, mostly because weapons do more damage until very high levels. Moreso if you find magic weapons with either pluses or other boosts. This I disagree with. You get a ton from 5th to 10th level: Fighters: 2 subclass abilities, 2 feats, indomitable Rogues: 1 subclass ability, 2d6 sneak attack, 2 feats Barbarians: 2 subclass abilities, brutal critical, pounce, primal knowlege, feral instinct and a feat Monks: 1 subclass ability, Evasion, Stillness of Mind, +5 move, purity of body, 4ki and a feat They all get a proficiency increase too which improves attack rolls and a lot of abilities they get. As a simple example an Eldritch Knight with an 18 strength (let me know if I should use something else) at 5th level swinging a longsword and dueling is doing 14 DPR vs AC 15. The same Eldritch Knight at level 10 with a 20 strength using War Magic is doing 21DPR primary damage to one enemy and if another enemy is within 5 feet he is doing another 5 DPR give or take to that other enemy. That is without considering the third feat he got or using any limited resources. Another example - a Phantom Rogue with 18 strength and a Rapier at 5th level is doing 13DPR vs AC15 (no advantage) to one enemy and three times a day he will do another 5 to a second enemy. The same Rogue at 10th level is doing 21 to one enemy and four times a day he will do another 8 to a second enemy. Again that is not considering the third feat he got. To be honest you generally get more from 6-10th level than you get from 13th-20th. Mundanes are not sexy, by definition. However non-casters in 5E have a bunch of supernatural subclass options that are both sexy and effective. The mundane options are put there purposely for players who don't want sexy. That is the whole point of those subclasses. If you want sexy why aren't you playing one of the more sexy subclasses with your martial? [/QUOTE]
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