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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9159645" data-attributes="member: 63508">The minimization of what we humans can do in our real world and the overall lower amount of knowledge or interests in some of the pursuits and activities of not popular with many in the D&D demographics has warped the perception and mechanics of D&D.Mike Tyson, the old man he is today, if he punched a 25HD archmage would instantly drop them down like a pack of potatoes and cause rolling of saving throws. The gap between a trained warrior and some booklist scholar who on their best day dodged the knifes and axes of goblins would be great.  But we minimize the gap both due to the lack of understanding in some or the lack of enjoyment of othersThe actors of the wrestling industry are charged with lifting and spinning human beings off weights equal or more than theirs gracefully and dropping them onto wood or concrete floors with seriously injuring themselves or others on a weekly basis.And D&D characters are stronger, faster, tougher, and more dextrous than them. All while being amazingly small, wise, and/or charming.Which is why I said early on that martials didn't need to be supernatural. A martial at their real full potential with D&D's insane base stamina  and lack of injuries would be insane.</blockquote>