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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9160311" data-attributes="member: 996">lolyeah, class balance can be hard to take ;PSeriously, tho, 1e AD&amp;D had, like these clear LotR references, especially in spells and magic items, &quot;Gandalf was a 5th level magic-user&quot; (based on the spells he cast) also meant the spells Gandalf cast were added to D&amp;D. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Glowing magic swords &amp; daggers, +1/+2 vs goblinoids, rings of invisibility and elemental command, the staff of power &amp; of the magi, they cursed Crystal Hypnosis Ball (srsly?), and so forth. It was overblown, at the time, really (as much as I liked it a the time), people read too much into it and thought it was just an unauthorized JRRT rpg, when it also drew heavily on REH and Moorcock and Lovecraft &amp;c.But, if you just ran it straight, Fighter, Cleric, MU, &amp; Thief, trusted the treasure types &amp; tables, it was higher-magic than middle earth tended to be, both in terms of there being more and more sorts of casters both in the world and in any given party, and in terms of more (and more minor) magic items.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9160311, member: 996"] lolyeah, class balance can be hard to take ;P Seriously, tho, 1e AD&D had, like these clear LotR references, especially in spells and magic items, "Gandalf was a 5th level magic-user" (based on the spells he cast) also meant [I]the spells Gandalf cast were added to D&D. [/I];) Glowing magic swords & daggers, +1/+2 vs goblinoids, rings of invisibility and elemental command, the staff of power & of the magi, they cursed Crystal Hypnosis Ball (srsly?), and so forth. It was overblown, at the time, really (as much as I liked it a the time), people read too much into it and thought it was just an unauthorized JRRT rpg, when it also drew heavily on REH and Moorcock and Lovecraft &c. But, if you just ran it straight, Fighter, Cleric, MU, & Thief, trusted the treasure types & tables, it was higher-magic than middle earth tended to be, both in terms of there being more and more sorts of casters both in the world and in any given party, and in terms of more (and more minor) magic items. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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