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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 7240043" data-attributes="member: 53980">I think it is.Note that, per my previous posts, magic would not be an auto success. Granted, you might be able to use Dimension Door to succeed automatically, but as I said before there could very well be a route by which the rogue can circumvent this courtyard automatically. However, Dimension Door can most certainly fail (if you try to teleport inside a solid object). That's before we even consider areas that are warded against magic.I see your example as a failure of the DM. As I've said many times in this thread, you don't need to roll if success is automatic. You had an ability that automatically allowed you to jump farther than the width of the pit. Hence, no roll necessary. You're conflating "always needing to roll for skills" with "a natural 1 always fails". You can choose to use one or the other, neither, or both. Personally, I think always needing to roll is the problem rule. It leads to all kinds of nonsensical results. Failure on a natural 1 (and success on a natural 20) simply means that IF a roll is called for then there is at least SOME chance of failure/success. The outcome is uncertain. I could see your argument about an 11th level rogue in a scenario with plenty of cover or just a few guards. However, I posited (on purpose) a scenario with minimal cover and at least a hundred guards. This would be  task that a lesser character would like find to be nearly impossible or completely impossible. This character is able to attempt a nigh impossible feat with at least a 95% chance of success  (could be better than that based on race/feats/gear). I see nothing wrong with allowing for a chance of failure in that circumstance. It's not about screwing the player. I can't see how I would spring this on them. The player would be well aware that it is a heavily patrolled area with little cover. They are welcome to find another path if they don't like their odds. However, I as the DM have to make determinations about what is reasonable and what isn't. And to me, an 11th level character isn't getting through that courtyard automatically (unless they come up with a really clever plan). At 20th level, sure. At 11th, you're goid enough to attempt it, you might be good enough to only fail on a 1, but it isn't guaranteed. In fairness though, if you were running that scenario with my rules and you felt this a trivial task for one such as him, don't even ask for a roll. Just have him succeed automatically. That's the beauty of it. A roll means a chance of failure (as well as success). No doubt about the outcome, no roll.</blockquote>

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