Signature Spell
- Thread starter Kzach
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It looks balanced, but what happens when Johnny no-thumbs fires off his signature magic missile, while you react with your signature magic missile? Oh, the RP whoas!
Jim Darkmagic wins, of course.
Boarstorm
First Post
Of the New Hampshire Darkmagics? Oh, I've heard good things about that one.
Also: Looks good to me, and provides a nice counterpoint to weapon focus for casters. I approve.
greyscale1
First Post
I agree with firelance, HOWEVER!!!!
I think its good as written, at epic level i don't care if my wizard always hits with his signiture spell. If it makes him feel good, then I'm happy.
Even if +3 is out of line and powerful, its an at-will, and the feat as a whole is cool, but not a MUST HAVE.
It meets with my approval.
I think its good as written, at epic level i don't care if my wizard always hits with his signiture spell. If it makes him feel good, then I'm happy.
Even if +3 is out of line and powerful, its an at-will, and the feat as a whole is cool, but not a MUST HAVE.
It meets with my approval.
For Balance I would suggest reducing it to a flat +1 bonus to attack and damage with your signature spell. Remember that bonuses to Attack rolls are powerful in 4E. With that said a +1 to ATK & DAM should be balanced with the feats that grant +1 damage to 2 energy types (since these effect multiple powers).
I would not allow the feat to scale. IIRC there are no feats that auto-scale with level, only powers. If you want to increase the bonuses I would suggest:
IMPROVED SIGNATURE SPELL [Paragon Feat]
Prerequisite: Signature Spell
Benefit: Increase your signature spell bonus to +2 to attacks and damage.
SUPERIOR SIGNATURE SPELL [Paragon Feat]
Prerequisite: Signature Spell, Improved Signature Spell
Benefit: Increase your signature spell bonus to +3 to attacks and damage.
This should balance out in that you have to spend the 2 additional feats to get to the +3 bonus.
JMHO.
I would not allow the feat to scale. IIRC there are no feats that auto-scale with level, only powers. If you want to increase the bonuses I would suggest:
IMPROVED SIGNATURE SPELL [Paragon Feat]
Prerequisite: Signature Spell
Benefit: Increase your signature spell bonus to +2 to attacks and damage.
SUPERIOR SIGNATURE SPELL [Paragon Feat]
Prerequisite: Signature Spell, Improved Signature Spell
Benefit: Increase your signature spell bonus to +3 to attacks and damage.
This should balance out in that you have to spend the 2 additional feats to get to the +3 bonus.
JMHO.
FireLance
Legend
Check out Weapon Focus, Toughness and the feats that give +1 damage to two energy types at Heroic tier.
Check out Weapon Focus, Toughness and the feats that give +1 damage to two energy types at Heroic tier.
Eh. My bad. I keep thinking they are a flat bonus. Should have looked it up rather than going on memory.
With that said though, these only increase damage. There is only 3 feats that increases attack bonus -
Action Surge - Human Racial Feat - Flat +3 ATK bonus on an Action Point attack.
Hellfire Blood - Tiefling Racial Feat - Flat +1 ATK & DAM on Fire/Fear keywords.
Nimble Blade - Dex 15 - Flat +1 ATK when you have combat advantage.
These feats, IMHO, tell us that an Attack Bonus should be rare.
I still think that Signature Spell, to be balanced with existing feats, should either:
A) Only increase the damage of the spell.
B) Give a flat one time bonus to ATK & DAM.
WhatGravitas
Explorer
No. Attack bonuses in 4E are hard to get outside the standard progression of 1/2 level + stats + magic item/implement.
If you have a single feat giving you +1 to attacks, you will remain at one point over the expected attack bonus for your entire career - a +1 bonus isn't getting worthless, it remains good all the time.
If you add the auto-scaling damage +1/+2/+3, it balances well to Weapon Focus - the bonus is more situational, but you get a better chance to hit, i.e. your damage bonus is more likely to do something.
So... I'd do it like this:
Signature Spell [Wizard]
Prerequisites: Wizard
Benefit: Pick one of your at-will spells to gain a +1 feat bonus to hit and damage. At 11th level, this damage bonus increases to +2. At 21st level, the damage bonus increases to +3.
Cheers, LT.
