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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5951723" data-attributes="member: 6669384">To be fair, I think the authors were watching the original Kung Fu series, which was relatively new on TV at the time.In short, they were following a popular fad of the moment.So, other than the concept issue (What's an Oriental monk doing in a pseudo-medieval European setting), the 1e version worked.  But then, in 1e, ability scores weren't all that important.  Unless you had a fairly high Dex, it made no difference.  (from about 7 to 14, if I recall, was all the same.)  Unless you had a Strength of 17 or higher, the only real difference was your "Bend Bars/Lift Gates" number.  And only Fighter class, specifically, got to roll on the Extraordinary Strength table (the percentage number that followed an 18).  So, while the class was a bad fit for the setting, the MAD issue really didn't come up much.  Additionally, prior to 3rd Edition, point buy wasn't in the game for stats.  The only way to run a class with stat minimums was to roll them, so if you were running a Paladin or a Monk, MAD wasn't really an issue.  You were guaranteed to have the stats just to play the class at all.3.0 changed all that.  Every stat is important for something, even if it's only Skills.So what would it take to break the MAD problem?  Allow a Monk to substitute Wisdom bonus for one other score?  (i.e., at creation they could choose to train to use Wisdom for KI focus, allowing them to use Wisdom modifiers in place of Strength, or the might choose to train Wisdom for Insight focus, allowing them to use Wisdom bonus in place of Dex.)  That would trim the stat competition down to something more reasonable.As for a defining role, allow them to choose either a Fighter BAB (Warrior Monk), or Rogue skill base (Scholarly Monk).  Again, this is a career choice, like a Ranger choosing the archery focus or the TWF focus.If those choices were offered as class features, would it be too much?  Not enough?  Just wrong?</blockquote>

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