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Silvery Barbs, how would you fix it? Does it need fixing?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8479444" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>No it is not, because the first roll has to succeed in order to use it. This is a statistical fallacy. Once the first roll is already rolled (and suceeded) it is history and has no affect on future rolls, including the roll you get from barbs.</p><p></p><p>To illustrate this if you need an 11 your chance of success is 50%. If you roll 2 dice and take the lowest the chance of success is 25%. In this case it is a +5 like you said.</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER if you roll 1 dice and that dice is already 11 or above, the chance of rolling below an 11 with the second dice is 50%, the exact same as before the first die was rolled.</p><p></p><p>Now if the spell were different and if you cast the spell before the first roll and it gave the roller disadvantage, then it would be like you said. It would actually be a more powerful against an easy to hit number if this was the case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree on the crits, not on the legendaries. Most monsters with legendary resistances usually also have high saves, making this less useful when the monster has already suceeded.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8479444, member: 7030563"] No it is not, because the first roll has to succeed in order to use it. This is a statistical fallacy. Once the first roll is already rolled (and suceeded) it is history and has no affect on future rolls, including the roll you get from barbs. To illustrate this if you need an 11 your chance of success is 50%. If you roll 2 dice and take the lowest the chance of success is 25%. In this case it is a +5 like you said. HOWEVER if you roll 1 dice and that dice is already 11 or above, the chance of rolling below an 11 with the second dice is 50%, the exact same as before the first die was rolled. Now if the spell were different and if you cast the spell before the first roll and it gave the roller disadvantage, then it would be like you said. It would actually be a more powerful against an easy to hit number if this was the case. I agree on the crits, not on the legendaries. Most monsters with legendary resistances usually also have high saves, making this less useful when the monster has already suceeded. [/QUOTE]
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