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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8481607" data-attributes="member: 7030563">No it doesn'tIf you are using barbs to force a reroll on a save, the total cost is the spell slot for the spell that generated the save (which may even be a high level slot) plus the 1st level slot used on Barbs to force the second roll.&nbsp; This is at a minimum 2 slots to cause a second roll following a fail.You do the same thing with stunning strike.&nbsp; You use stunning Strike once and he saves, then you use it a second time on the same turn.&nbsp; If he fails his save on the first SS you don't use it on the second, just like you would not use bards.&nbsp; In this respect it is the same as Barbs, you choose whether to make him save against stun again.This is the same effect either way - you force two saves on a single turn and you make a decision to use a second resource once he saved on the first.&nbsp; The difference is monk has spent only 2 Ki to do this one action.&nbsp; The wizard has spent a first level slot, another slot (which could be high level) and used his reaction to get the exact same effect.The other difference is the Monk can do it again on a bonus action</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8481607, member: 7030563"] No it doesn't If you are using barbs to force a reroll on a save, the total cost is the spell slot for the spell that generated the save (which may even be a high level slot) plus the 1st level slot used on Barbs to force the second roll. This is at a minimum 2 slots to cause a second roll following a fail. You do the same thing with stunning strike. You use stunning Strike once and he saves, then you use it a second time on the same turn. If he fails his save on the first SS you don't use it on the second, just like you would not use bards. In this respect it is the same as Barbs, you choose whether to make him save against stun again. This is the same effect either way - you force two saves on a single turn and you make a decision to use a second resource once he saved on the first. The difference is monk has spent only 2 Ki to do this one action. The wizard has spent a first level slot, another slot (which could be high level) and used his reaction to get the exact same effect. The other difference is the Monk can do it again on a bonus action [/QUOTE]

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