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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8486036" data-attributes="member: 7030563">It is only worth it if he fails the second roll and if you are going to use it every time an enemy suceeds then most of the time the second roll will be a failure as well.Wasting a spell slot and a reaction for no effect is not &quot;worth it&quot; and that will be the most common result.Yeah ONCE a day on a spell he cast and it is forcing a reroll, it is not disadvantage.And if the Barbs roll is on the upper half of the D20 they are probably not that useful either.&nbsp; The difference is you don't waste a slot and a reaction AND you still get to use the portent when you need to succeed.That is a legit reason to use it, and probably the most powerful use available, but it is fundamentally different than using it to reroll on a save.As I said above silvery barbs is HUGE as a once a day through a feat on a martial or for a caster without shield on his list.&nbsp; Honestly an 8th level fighter would be hard pressed to argue any feat or ASI is generally better than MI or FT and a feat that gives you one use of silvery barbs is hands down better than resilient constitution or a constitution ASI on a Monk, Rogue, Paladin or Ranger. ....or really any character except a barbarian.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8486036, member: 7030563"] It is only worth it if he fails the second roll and if you are going to use it every time an enemy suceeds then most of the time the second roll will be a failure as well. Wasting a spell slot and a reaction for no effect is not "worth it" and that will be the most common result. Yeah ONCE a day on a spell he cast and it is forcing a reroll, it is not disadvantage. And if the Barbs roll is on the upper half of the D20 they are probably not that useful either. The difference is you don't waste a slot and a reaction AND you still get to use the portent when you need to succeed. That is a legit reason to use it, and probably the most powerful use available, but it is fundamentally different than using it to reroll on a save. As I said above silvery barbs is HUGE as a once a day through a feat on a martial or for a caster without shield on his list. Honestly an 8th level fighter would be hard pressed to argue any feat or ASI is generally better than MI or FT and a feat that gives you one use of silvery barbs is hands down better than resilient constitution or a constitution ASI on a Monk, Rogue, Paladin or Ranger. ....or really any character except a barbarian. [/QUOTE]

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