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Silvery Barbs, how would you fix it? Does it need fixing?
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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8487900" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>Silvery Barbs isn't a great replacement for Shield. Shield lasts until your next turn, and when you use it it is guaranteed to make an attack miss (barring further interrupts), and you can use it on 25% of incoming attacks (so pretty often), and follow up attacks become less likely to hit.</p><p></p><p>Silvery Barbs can be used on every hit, but only has a fair chance of making it miss.</p><p></p><p>The big deal of Silvery Barbs is on a PC with lots of low level slots (more slots than they can use in the adventuring day). It converts slots into power pretty efficiently and with good action economy.</p><p></p><p>To be strong offensively, you need excess low level slots (1), and lots of cases where enemies have a chance to make saves that are important that they fail (2).</p><p></p><p>Defensively, it beats shield on crits or when someone besides you is attacked. Against a hit it isn't as good as shield.</p><p></p><p>On someone who is a 3rd level spellcaster, unless you have extremely short days you don't have excess slots. The higher efficiency of shield will make it a better defensive spell. And offensively, the big advantage will rely on someone else in the party landing good save-or-sucks, as that PC will usually be better off using their action to attack, not debuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8487900, member: 72555"] Silvery Barbs isn't a great replacement for Shield. Shield lasts until your next turn, and when you use it it is guaranteed to make an attack miss (barring further interrupts), and you can use it on 25% of incoming attacks (so pretty often), and follow up attacks become less likely to hit. Silvery Barbs can be used on every hit, but only has a fair chance of making it miss. The big deal of Silvery Barbs is on a PC with lots of low level slots (more slots than they can use in the adventuring day). It converts slots into power pretty efficiently and with good action economy. To be strong offensively, you need excess low level slots (1), and lots of cases where enemies have a chance to make saves that are important that they fail (2). Defensively, it beats shield on crits or when someone besides you is attacked. Against a hit it isn't as good as shield. On someone who is a 3rd level spellcaster, unless you have extremely short days you don't have excess slots. The higher efficiency of shield will make it a better defensive spell. And offensively, the big advantage will rely on someone else in the party landing good save-or-sucks, as that PC will usually be better off using their action to attack, not debuff. [/QUOTE]
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