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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8497580" data-attributes="member: 5889">If people really feel that SB is not going to come in a standard adventuring day, you just aren't throwing as many saving throw spells as the wizards I generally see.And the abilities do stack with Mind Sliver and Unsettling words....to a point. Unsettling words subtracts from the save, if its enough...no SB needed (great!). If its not enough, we can activate silvery barbs to get another chance. Both spells work together to maximize the chance that a high level spell lands, even if they don't directly stack on top of each other.The other argument against SB is the notion of &quot;increased resource consumption&quot;, but that is not entirely true. For example, if in a fight I cast polymorph and fail to land it... well next round I'm probably going to throw out another big spell. But if my polymorph lands with some SB assistance, I as a wizard have done my job. I now have taken a major threat out of the fight, perhaps the biggest threat. I can now switch to cantrips or lower level spells and let the martials clean up.More saves landed = fewer high level slots used = more higher level slots left in the day. How many 1st level slots is worth getting another 4th level slot in the day, or 5th?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8497580, member: 5889"] If people really feel that SB is not going to come in a standard adventuring day, you just aren't throwing as many saving throw spells as the wizards I generally see. And the abilities do stack with Mind Sliver and Unsettling words....to a point. Unsettling words subtracts from the save, if its enough...no SB needed (great!). If its not enough, we can activate silvery barbs to get another chance. Both spells work together to maximize the chance that a high level spell lands, even if they don't directly stack on top of each other. The other argument against SB is the notion of "increased resource consumption", but that is not entirely true. For example, if in a fight I cast polymorph and fail to land it... well next round I'm probably going to throw out another big spell. But if my polymorph lands with some SB assistance, I as a wizard have done my job. I now have taken a major threat out of the fight, perhaps the biggest threat. I can now switch to cantrips or lower level spells and let the martials clean up. More saves landed = fewer high level slots used = more higher level slots left in the day. How many 1st level slots is worth getting another 4th level slot in the day, or 5th? [/QUOTE]

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