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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8497591" data-attributes="member: 5889">You have made this assertion multiple times, and I continue to dispute it.Here's a simple table of some standard failure chances:<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Base Failure</td><td>HS Boost</td><td>SB Boost</td><td>SB Boost (by sorcery point)</td><td>HS Boost (by sorcery point)</td></tr><tr><td>0.35 </td><td>0.2275 </td><td>0.1225 </td><td>0.175 </td><td>0.1925 </td></tr><tr><td>0.4 </td><td>0.24 </td><td>0.16 </td><td>0.2 </td><td>0.213333 </td></tr><tr><td>0.45 </td><td>0.2475 </td><td>0.2025 </td><td>0.225 </td><td>0.2325 </td></tr><tr><td>0.5 </td><td>0.25 </td><td>0.25 </td><td>0.25 </td><td>0.25 </td></tr><tr><td>0.55 </td><td>0.2475 </td><td>0.3025 </td><td>0.275 </td><td>0.265833 </td></tr><tr><td>0.6 </td><td>0.24 </td><td>0.36 </td><td>0.3 </td><td>0.28 </td></tr><tr><td>0.65 </td><td>0.2275 </td><td>0.4225 </td><td>0.325 </td><td>0.2925 </td></tr><tr><td>0.7 </td><td>0.21 </td><td>0.49 </td><td>0.35 </td><td>0.303333 </td></tr></table>Column 2: Increase in overall failure rate for using HSColumn 3: Increase in overall failure rate for using SBColumn 4: Increase in immediate failure rate by using sorcery points for on SB.Column 5: Increase in overall failure rate by using sorcery points on HSWhat this shows is: If the creature has a low chance of failing, than HS provides a higher boost to failure than SB. But as soon as you go over 50%, SB is superior in overall value.We can also look at this in terms of resource value. Dividing Column 2 by 3 sorcery points gives us the HS per point. With SB, because we only choose to spend the resource after getting an initial result, when we spend it we get the base failure rate all over again, divided by 2 points.So once again, once saves are over 50%, SB is superior to HS. Both in total failure boost, and in boost per resource spent.Now we can debate when each one is better, and that's a reasonable debate. But this assertion that HS is always statistically superior to SB is completely false.As for whether HS is not a common choice for sorcs, keep in mind its high cost in sorcery points is a major factor, and it has to compete with abilities like quicken. SB is the cheapest spell resource there is.I also continue to assert, that the fact we are even comparing a 1st level spell to major class features is a point in the "possibly OP camp". When a wizard can do what makes a sorc special with a 1st level spell....that should be cause for concern.</blockquote>

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